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Have a friend with a ppp reverse pattern shifter . It has a problem going 1st to 3rd ,it seems if pushed forward hard it bypasses 2nd with what seems has no positive stop for it . Anybody else have this headache ?

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Same problem but on a Cheetah shifter. Let wd40 dribble down shifter cable and fixed for 2 years now. I lost 2 rounds because of this problem

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Not the cable , doesnt seem to have a positive stop between 2nd and third. Wondering if anyone had/ fixed the problem.

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We had this problem. Coan sent us a plate to stiffen the detent arm. According to Foley, it is now working fine.

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I’m sure you have checked the lever ( does it have multiple holes) for alignment ( pin moves freely in and out of lever) in each gear.? I have the same shifter and it’s positive every time.. I don’t hit mine but I’m sure you could.

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Good morning Jeff and to all,
When I upgraded from the PG to the TH200 I kept missing second gear with my Turbo Action Shifter. Not the shifters fault - driver error. Old habits are tuff to stop and tougher as we get older. Joe DeMarzo and Billy Marshall got me hooked up with a Hurst Quarter Stick shifter and once I got the feel for it , the shifter is working perfectly. My trans shift forward, so I hit it for Second, then grab and hold the lever and make the 2-3 shift. just make sure to let go of the lever once you've made the gear change. If you hold the stick and rock it slightly, you can unlock the neutral gate and go into neutral.
Thats worked for me , and I hope that helps you.
Have a Good Day!

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz 1534 H/SA

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This thread is about the PPP shifter not the Cheetah shifter that has performed flawlessly for 12 years I used it, never once did it not shift into 2nd gear with my turbo400, same cable as day 1 install and no maintenance ever done to the cable or the shifter. Just saying.

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On the ppp there is no positive stop from 2-3 shift .It would be nice if there were a positive stop like the cheeta !

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Your friend chose poorly, I would never use that shifter but many do.

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Ok I'll play. The first sentence on my thread. ( Same problem but on a Cheetah shifter). I mentioned as it had exact problem. The cables stiff and on the 1 2 shift the shifter would not hit the 2cd gear detent and the spring would push shifter over and miss the detent and continue into third. Lubed cable and that stopped it.
By the way this shifter was first install in 1993 and I bought it at a swap used. Second car in 2002. I would say your 12 year old shifter is brand. Just saying.

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Ok I'll play. The first sentence on my thread. ( Same problem but on a Cheetah shifter). I mentioned as it had exact problem. The cables stiff and on the 1 2 shift the shifter would not hit the 2cd gear detent and the spring would push shifter over and miss the detent and continue into third. Lubed cable and that stopped it.
By the way this shifter was first install in 1993 and I bought it at a swap meet used. Second car in 2002. I would say your 12 year old shifter is brand new. Just saying.

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Say what you want but my shifter made thousands of shifts unlike the shifter in a stocker:D

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You should know what your talking about before spoutng off. First SS 85 Monte Carlo. Second car Bracket raced 83 Monte Carlo. Stocker has a different Cheetah. shifter. Now can we get back on topic instead of seeing who has the best shifter and makes more passes. Mine didn't work right and I did what I did to fix it. Maybe offer some assistance instead of degrading PPP shifter or telling us you have the best damn shifter in the country and possibly the world. 1320 A Hat

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I know what I'm talking about, you on the other hand are clueless! Jeff Stout A Hat extraordinaire

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Wow, from a guy that's all hat and no cattle and founder and president of Team Stupid you have put me in my place.

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weak, just like your opinion here regarding the OP's freind's issue with a PPP shifter, NOT a Cheetah shifter to which he told you... WRONG, not the cable!

Talk about what you know, not what you think you know.:p

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No ***** Dick Tracy. It was a similar problem and just offered my opinion to help the guy. So far your help as help has been I would never have that shifter. That is great advice for someone asking for help. Sorry to the thread starter for getting off track. Hopefully you all found this to be humorous typing to prez of Team Stupid.

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OK -- FOR A PPP SHIFTER ----FIRST YOU MUST adjust the shifter in SECOND GEAR---not First --Not third --Not reverse or park but SECOND gear ONLY----make sure that the shifter cable has no sharp bends in it-it is not binding it is securely mounted----on the gear selector/shifter arm on trans holes are ROUND not elongated, not oval etc. but PERFECTLY ROUND--the shifter arm is not flexing as you are shifting if it is beef it up so there is no flex---make sure that when you are adjusting the shifter arm on the trans that the shifter cable fitting slides into and out of the shifter arm on the trans WITH ABSOLUTELY no resistance ,drag, nothing and that the shifter arm is not moving as you do this --- even the slightest drag on sliding that fitting into the arm will cause problems or the arm moving as you are doing this procedure will cause problems --IT HAS TO BE PERFECT---Try it see what the results are---FED 387

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yours was not a similar, your issue was with a Cheetah shifter NOT a PPP shifter.

Again, captain clueless, talk about what you know, not what you think you know!


Now back to this PPP shifter issue....

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If following the installation instructions in these 3 links doesn't resolve your friend's issue, then he needs to call PPP @ (208) 585-2814

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I've got the forward (push) shift PPP for a C4 and the reverse (pull) for a Protrans 727/904. The forward shift doesn't have a positive stop for 2nd gear despite having a lip on the detent pattern. You may be able to adjust the spring in the handle or find some other way to make it a positive stop, but mine's an air shifter so I never really cared.

I found that if you just hit the lever with your palm or finger--like a slap stick shifter--it'll go right into 2nd gear and not skip to 3rd.

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thats exactly it . Thanks !

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What is the proper method for accurate adjustment?
The primary check is for full travel from park to the opposite end of the shift pattern. Then verifying that all forward gear positions are in a relaxed condition is recommended.


From PPP FAQs

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Had this exact problem with one I worked on. PPP showed less than z-e-r-o interest...never returned multiple calls, emails, etc. Tossed the junk original spring and sourced some spring stock from McMaster Carr. After a bit of tinkering with spring length and preload...problem solved. -Al

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heard the same from many that had issues over the years and this is why I never considered this shifter when I decided to swap out my Turbo Action Cheetah shifter 4 months ago.

https://i.imgur.com/isIbCVIl.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N9neEkFl.jpg

I also considered the M&M and Motion Raceworks shifters which are available for both 2 and 3 speed trans, both very nice and made in the USA.

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The side plates on your PPP shifter are worn out. Replace the side plates and it will work as advertised. I know because that happened to my shifter.



Dwayne

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I'm fighting a similar issue with the shifter hitting 3rd but the trans is not fully engaged. PPP solution was to lube the cable(which I did) or get a longer cable. The PPP seems to be sensitive to the bends in the cable.