Attention 1983 Camaro 263 HP competitors.
 

I just reviewed the latest averages after the Jegs week races at Columbus, Ohio. In H/SA we have had 6 runs of more than 1 second under the index. The H/SA class average is - 844 under the index. We are SAFE , for now .It would be great if everyone played nice and would refrain from making any runs more than -85 under the index. Of course, **** happens AND heads up runs happen also. Thats just part of it ….Its also important to know that you must run -65 under to be included in the class average…

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Beech Bend points meet just around the corner, maybe some of the 305 class cars will play nice.

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Thanks MJ for the info.

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MJ,
The average was .858 for H/SA before the D1 points race. We made 6 runs between .67 & .74 under. The overall average for our combo was .821 with 7 triggers and 111 runs. That was on 7/11/24.

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Hello Rod, obviously you are doing your part . We need more 305 guys and girls to be like Rod. The overall engine family average for our combo is now -815?..There have been 7 flags, 1 in Gsa and 6 in Hsa?.

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What is your average in G/SA with that one ding?

Paul H

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Tall Paul, it is -816 under …...

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Where do you find the averages?

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I found the averages in my INBOX…..

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I think a lot of racers don’t understand this part. Setting the car up or lifting to go -.50 does no one any good.

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We spent $4,000.00 plus a week off work for two guys to
protect our average going to Woodburn last week.

We spent more than that going to St Louis taking two cars there
a couple years ago to protect our average that time.

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A father and son racing together is priceless….The memories you make will last a LIFETIME ….

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Fifteen year old indexes sure causes a lot of heartburn.

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Oh yes Mr Jimmy I miss the good ole days of trying to protect the 350 245 hp flat top. Nothing left to protect now! You can run it like you stole it and you're not getting in trouble lol. I remember one year I spent a bunch of money and made some good gains like 7 hundredths and it was all gone before my first race because someone went 1.21 under taking over a tenth stripe lol.
Good luck M.J.!

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My racing days are numbered BUT in all my years of racing I never understood the concept of spending so much TIME and $$ on a race car so you can add weight in the trunk....As Jared Jordan pointed out , some racers still don?t understand how the AHFS works…...and then there is Ralph…..LOL ….

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Ya know M.J., I figured out a long time ago that there are Racers who just don't care how much they spend as long as they're the quickest. There are also Racers out there who know that their time is almost up and don't care how fast they go. Now, take a Racer who falls into both of those categories and you'll know why I decided to race odd combos and junk.

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To be honest the AHFS helped my old car.

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AHFS is Sure tough on one car or low count classes.

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Will a hit to the '83 305 Camaro hurt my '80 Malibu 305 combo? Or is it considered a different platform?

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Ya know M.J., not to go stirring any pots or anything but the '83 Camaro 305 HO (flat piston, big cam) that is the subject of this thread isn't an automatic only combo, it's a STICK only combo. 305/165 (F.I. combo) is auto only. Any hard-core Camaro guy would know that. But I won't tell! ;-)

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No the Camaro wont.

A 2 door Malibu could though being theyre both of the same platform.

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Cool, thanks. My car is of the 4 door wagon variety.

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Ya know, I heard that before. And 283 stockers never came with a 327 intake manifold, AND 283 Chevy ll s never came with a DEEP oil pan, and 67-68 Camaro SBC stockers never came with 3 speed trans, AND MJ has never seen a 70 nova on the street with a 350 LT-1 engine, (although some one ,some where may have,) and James Perrone has a strong dislike for 83 Camaro front bumper covers….

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Yeah, just kidding since there weren't enough built.

Harrell did the same and there was a Harrell dealer just up the road - seems like they sold a couple.

Useless trivia - shortest lived Harrell car sold by them (had friends there) was a 427 Nova that was totalled about 5 miles away on the trip home.
Came back to add the obvious - F70x14 Polyglas and a L72 was a tricky situation at best.

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Ya know M.J., I always did like your style!

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Actually set a record with a stick shift in an automatic only combo car.
It was listed under "ALL" .. Good enough for me ;-)

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70 Nova with an LT-1 and a 4 speed was a car I drove on the street
It belonged to a friend and I changed the engine in it when the original engine broke
It was a Yenko Deuce

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I remember in 1970 ( that tells my age ) Wallace Chevrolet in Linden, NJ had them lined up about ten of them Yenko Deuces.

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Ron that’s where that Yenko came from
When the engine broke, the cars owner took it there and warrantee was denied
He was racing it at Etown sometimes
We picked it up with a trailer and the blown engine was in the trunk
I put a 302 Z race engine in it that was a spare from his ‘69 Z F/S racecar at the time
That car sold later for $3200

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Just seems STRANGE that it took OVER 45 years to appear in the classification guide … Just sayin.

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Probably because the required number of cars dropped from 500 to 50....

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DANGG'GIT!!!...and just when I was beginning to believe I only had to worry about other Malibu's...

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY https://classracer.com/classforum/im...s/viewpost.gif
Ya know, I heard that before. And 283 stockers never came with a 327 intake manifold, AND 283 Chevy ll s never came with a DEEP oil pan, and 67-68 Camaro SBC stockers never came with 3 speed trans, AND MJ has never seen a 70 nova on the street with a 350 LT-1 engine, (although some one ,some where may have,) and James Perrone has a strong dislike for 83 Camaro front bumper covers?.


Ya know M.J., I always did like your style! __________________
Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS


Too bad that Billy don't adress that stuff like he does with other makes bogus stuff


Beside that I also have a problem with that they took more than '500 made' out of the equation for Stock Eliminator

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Mr Clean, most likely Billy doesn't want to muck up MJ's thread any more than it is now. Trust me he's quite capable of starting his own thread:-)

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the Automatic Help For Slugs cannot and will not EVER work and this is why > we can control our own destiny.

i feel for MJ and the 396 camaros and you actually are not in control you are a spectator in your cars viability to a point.

i aint sure what the answer is but the bogus *** AHFS aint it especially when it isnt followed in all cases. and some individuals requests carry more weight than others who pay the same for membership and entry fees.

end rant

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Please explain to me what you're saving it for? If you can go 1.2 under it deserves horsepower.
I know you'll hate me for asking but I welcome your feedback. Keep it clean.

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Well, the 305 263 HP combo took a beatin this weekend. Some of you guys and girls can add some weight now OR add 50 lbs this December. A lot of the problem is that there are a few of us that can not qualify at least -65 under….REMEMBER, you have to make a run of -65 under to be included in the class average. On a side note, if you OR your opponent red lights it is OK to let off at the 1000 foot cone. C,mon , you are smart . With your data you can figure out what the car will run……

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Well, ALMOST everyone behaved at BG so we are looking good. For those that are throwing stones at MJ, I have changed my combo to a 1986 coupe NHRA rated at 275 HP ….It sure did not help my driving. LOL.

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Well, today I received the latest averages for the 1983 Camaro 305 stocker engine rated at 263 HP …The overall eng average is -823 under. The G/SA average is -822 under. The H/SA average is -835 under and the I/SA average is -782 under. These averages DO include the Epping D1 race ALTHOUGH that race has not been completed…. It does look good for our combo. I believe we will NOT be adding weight for the Holidays. After a few conversations at INDY it looks as though everyone is on board. My good friend ROD from D1 gave me some valuable tips at Indy. He said MJ “ you just ain?t running enough oil.” I laughed all the way home….It was great visiting with TJ Boucher AND Rod AND Chris at Indy…...I spent two days trying to find Kenny Richards BUT I could never locate him. :mad::mad: This will be my last post regarding the 305 carb combo ….

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Where can you look up thes NHRA averages?