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R. Thorne 07-28-2024 11:50 AM

Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
As the title implies, the best part of Nhra.tv has been missing on the broadcasts for a couple weeks. Hope he is ok.

SuperStock fan 07-28-2024 01:53 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Hmm! I was thinking the same thing. Jason Galvin Joe Castello and Warren Evens do a good job of calling the action but they are not Allan.:confused:

Barry Polley 07-29-2024 12:04 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Wherever he is, he will be missed!
At an NHRA banquet we had the chance to sit down with him. Talk about a resource and historian! Great stories.
I’m sure he will land on his feet.

Thank you Alan!

SuperStock fan 07-30-2024 12:26 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Polley (Post 700659)
Wherever he is, he will be missed!
At an NHRA banquet we had the chance to sit down with him. Talk about a resource and historian! Great stories.
I?m sure he will land on his feet.

Thank you Alan!

So do we know for sure that Alan has been dismissed from nhra TV? If so that was a bad mistake on their part..

David Lee 07-30-2024 12:50 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
i sent him a message on twitter

Barry Polley 07-30-2024 12:51 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperStock fan (Post 700713)
So do we know for sure that Alan has been dismissed from nhra TV? If so that was a bad mistake on their part..

I have no idea and I agree. I'm not about to start the National Enquirer here.

Stan Weiss 07-30-2024 01:45 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
The rumor I heard floating around is that NHRA is upset with Alan over something he said about Tech and the John Force crash.


Stan

Mark Yeager 07-30-2024 01:53 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
We miss hearing him. He's clearly the voice of NHRA.

J.R. Haddad 07-30-2024 02:09 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
It was Alan's explanation about why the chutes didn't open. Although
not earth shattering, it pre-empted Tech from saying what they wanted, when they wanted. Worth losing Alan over? Hardly. Every year we seem
to get less perks, and to me, listening to Alan is a perk. And he works like
a dog, will go anywhere, anytime. Doesn't have any boat anchors to restrict his movements.

J.R.

340Cuda 07-30-2024 04:28 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
I thought the video was great and a service to the NHRA. It ended all the speculation about the pins still being in the chute packs.

jmcarter 07-30-2024 08:10 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Redman, Bloom and now Alan? Wonder if one of the Pro teams took exception to some of his witticisms?.it will be interesting to one day get the rest of the story

Brett C 07-30-2024 10:24 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
It?s been said many times over; It is their sand box, and we all decide to play in it.

Alan Roehrich 07-30-2024 10:43 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brett C (Post 700742)
It?s been said many times over; It is their sand box, and we all decide to play in it.


The mistake was voting to let "them" have it about 44 years ago. NHRA was intended to belong to the racers.

J.R. Haddad 07-31-2024 10:37 AM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Although he erred in relation in regards to a few John Force matters, and I think he and NHRA thought they were through, The announcing without
him was not well received, and I think the announcers did their best without
the history lessons and charisma of Alan. I will be surprised and disappointed in we do not see him back in Brainerd.

J.R.

pmrphil 07-31-2024 12:21 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
I must be missing something - where did he do anything wrong?
Showing the public that no one had left the pins in?

James Perrone 07-31-2024 12:37 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Where are you getting this information about Alan ?
Last year he missed few races and it was family stuff
Where does it say he?s gone?
By the way Alan is a spokesperson for JFR

reig3 07-31-2024 08:16 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmcarter (Post 700739)
Redman, Bloom and now Alan? Wonder if one of the Pro teams took exception to some of his witticisms?.it will be interesting to one day get the rest of the story

Definitely miss Lewis Bloom announcing and stats!

SuperStock fan 08-01-2024 02:16 AM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
There's one more announcer who we lost that kept you smiling and laughing while listing to the racing action and that was the late great Bob Unkefer. Bob Frey was quite the historian when it came to stock and super stock racing also. Let's all hope Alan returns soon and the NHRA didn't make stupid mistake and letting great personal go.

Barry Polley 08-01-2024 11:53 AM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperStock fan (Post 700782)
There's one more announcer who we lost that kept you smiling and laughing while listing to the racing action and that was the late great Bob Unkefer. Bob Frey was quite the historian when it came to stock and super stock racing also. Let's all hope Alan returns soon and the NHRA didn't make stupid mistake and letting great personal go.


Put a smile on my face! Unk! What a great guy! God speed buddy!
Frey! Same deal just awesome!
AR = Where’s Waldo? Alan also the voice.
How these guys can remember names / history and stats is amazing.
Hope we get back to the norm soon.
Never got to hear one announcer at Sonoma, too busy!

HR9121 08-01-2024 01:11 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
It would be a huge disappointment if Alan is no longer announcing but let's face it the crowd running the show could care less. If you piss in their cornflakes they don't care what kind of job you're doing just look what happened to our former DD in Division 2 Rich Schaefer. He was as good as they come in my opinion and they didn't mind running him off.

TOSTO RACING 08-01-2024 01:28 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
They run everyone off that actually does a good job and cares ! Problem is they don't care !

I hope Alan is still around he is the best!

Billy Hampton 08-01-2024 02:31 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Why do we choose NHRA in the first place? Is it the so called prestige of making a pass at a "national event" that actually never makes it on TV? or is it the "enhancements" that continually chip away at our enjoyment? Maybe its the cost of the tech cards that in no way are commensurate with the payouts.

I would offer the following as the real reasons:

It is the competitive nature of S and SS, the friendships and history of the class along with bragging rights of event wins. Opportunity for sponsorship $$ perhaps?

When it comes down to it what is desperately needed is one of our well heeled "friends" in our class that would hire someone to organize a national organization with points, realistic payouts, well organized and enjoyable events at great locations that make sense. I would even add catered food and nightime entertainment to attract the next generation of fan and racer alike.

And most importantly a support team of video production and promotion that would actually get 10's of thousands of views on streaming services that would naturally attract manufacturer and related sponsorships. (unlike the whopping "hundreds" of views we see now for divisional events).

Coordinating with local parts suppliers and dealerships ahead of the events, like NASCAR used to do by displaying our vehicles as the show-pieces they truly are. This would add butts to the seats also.

The $$ is in eyeballs. Someone with production and advertising background could take a serious approach to this and see it flourish. Kiss Gendora goodbye forever- Non profit my *****. Get real.

Billy Nees 08-01-2024 03:59 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Hampton (Post 700806)
When it comes down to it what is desperately needed is one of our well heeled "friends" in our class that would hire someone to organize a national organization with points, realistic payouts, well organized and enjoyable events at great locations that make sense. I would even add catered food and nightime entertainment to attract the next generation of fan and racer alike.

"When it comes down to it", NHRA would never allow a direct competitor to stage an event at any of it's sanctioned tracks.

1320racer 08-01-2024 05:31 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Ah the typical hate on the NHRA that this site is known for yet you all keep showing up and paying to play in their sandbox. Too fucing funny!

Dan Bennett 08-01-2024 05:48 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 700811)
"When it comes down to it", NHRA would never allow a direct competitor to stage an event at any of it's sanctioned tracks.

This is key. It's right up there with the proxy that gave the board total power. I've always thought it's why the IHRA never gained ground.

The NHRA worked hard through the years at locking up the best facilities. The contracts severely limit what sorts of events a track owner could hold.

I don't disagree with the formation of a new, more racer friendly organization, but considering: 1) the length of time it would take for enough significant tracks' contracts to expire 2) actually being able to convince them to move to an untested thing 3) the ability to provide an equal insurance package for the owners 4) the uncertainty whether racers would follow (bears on the getting worse treatment but still doing it) - It would take incredibly deep pockets to keep funding in place to get the job done over what would take years.

And then, finding capable people to staff the organization. We've seen how the suits have just ghosted people that they think crossed them. Would enough good people be willing to permantly burn that bridge and maybe eventually not be able to do what they love?

Dan Bennett 08-01-2024 06:14 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reig3 (Post 700777)
Definitely miss Lewis Bloom announcing and stats!


This may look like I posted twice in a row, and I know we're getting a bit off track. But it's my chance to share something about Bob Frey. I spent a lot of time with most of the announcers during my days with DRC working in the tower.

I doubt that many people know, but Bob has the most extensive drag racing computer database I know of - miles ahead of anything else and something he's spent countless hours on. He has a massive literature collection that any facts had been harvested from, and he actually updated his program every day. Not monthly, or after a race was over. Daily.

And considering how slow the NHRA was to embrace technology, and the staff cuts after they did, I'd bet it's better than what they have.

A group of us would often go to dinner after the day ended and it was great conversation. But Bob was always the first to leave by a bunch. He'd go back to his room, update the database, and do extensive research for the next day's announcing. Yes, he had a great memory but a lot of info was from the hours of research and prep he'd done the night before.

I consider Louis a good friend, and there were few people I knew who were as motivated as he was/is. But unless he came up with his own after I left the tour, his information came from Bob's records since he sort of took him under his wing when the "kid" at the time first started annoucing. Not a slam on Bloom in any way since he was one of the best. More trying to shine a light on Bob.

Billy Hampton 08-01-2024 07:45 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Bennett (Post 700819)
This is key. It's right up there with the proxy that gave the board total power. I've always thought it's why the IHRA never gained ground.

The NHRA worked hard through the years at locking up the best facilities. The contracts severely limit what sorts of events a track owner could hold.

I don't disagree with the formation of a new, more racer friendly organization, but considering: 1) the length of time it would take for enough significant tracks' contracts to expire 2) actually being able to convince them to move to an untested thing 3) the ability to provide an equal insurance package for the owners 4) the uncertainty whether racers would follow (bears on the getting worse treatment but still doing it) - It would take incredibly deep pockets to keep funding in place to get the job done over what would take years.

And then, finding capable people to staff the organization. We've seen how the suits have just ghosted people that they think crossed them. Would enough good people be willing to permantly burn that bridge and maybe eventually not be able to do what they love?


That is a well-thought-out set of reasons. Thank you for sharing. Makes sense.

FLEMING 08-02-2024 08:49 AM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
#freealan

David Gonzales 08-02-2024 07:26 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 700818)
Ah the typical hate on the NHRA that this site is known for yet you all keep showing up and paying to play in their sandbox. Too fucing funny!

No truer words have ever been spoken.

GTS340 08-02-2024 07:57 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Just like most threads on here....Alan who?

Paul H

HR9121 08-03-2024 09:49 AM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
IHRA tried for years and couldn't compete with NHRA. When it comes down to it the Stock and SS guys were the best excuse makers as to why they wouldn't run another sanctioned event. There were crate motors, too many 1/8 mile races, etc etc you name it but what it boiled down to was everyone just wants to race for the Wally. Prime example were the races Ken put on that struggled to get any traction with huge payouts and catered directly to us. This year was better turnout but it had to be put on the day before the division races.

1320racer 08-03-2024 10:35 AM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 700898)
what it boiled down to was everyone just wants to race for the Wally..

EXACTLY! The majority of class racers don't care about the payout, maybe because most never get to the final. :D

Chevy55 08-03-2024 03:23 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
NHRA's Alan Reinhart joins Joe Castello on WFO Radio NHRA Nitro
Streamed 3 weeks ago WFO Radio Live

https://youtu.be/-IBPNn7q2_s

Tim H 08-05-2024 11:01 AM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Anyone have any updates regarding Alan ? Please share. He is such a great announcer and truly a "car guy" hoping he will be back by Indy !

GarysZ24 08-06-2024 03:29 AM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HR9121 (Post 700898)
IHRA tried for years and couldn't compete with NHRA. When it comes down to it the Stock and SS guys were the best excuse makers as to why they wouldn't run another sanctioned event. There were crate motors, too many 1/8 mile races, etc etc you name it but what it boiled down to was everyone just wants to race for the Wally. Prime example were the races Ken put on that struggled to get any traction with huge payouts and catered directly to us. This year was better turnout but it had to be put on the day before the division races.

Don't blame me, Matt Hawk, & Mike & BJ Graham, because we came from Tempe and Tucson, Az., to support their $5k race over 10yrs ago in San Antonio, plus I went there in 2011 to support their efforts! Moreover, I hauled to Rocky Mountain Raceway in Utah, also to support the cause, and I'm one of the lowest budgeted class racers in the country!

One BIG reason I'm glad I did was because of something I just realized last year; although my Z24 Cavalier's shipping weight was 2,511lbs (as opposed to the 4dr Chevy Citation that Linda Sherman & Randy Hyman raced which was/is 2475lbs! They were able to run D&EF/SA, while I had to run B&CF/SA in the 90's! Moreover, my advertised hp of 120 was/is only 5hp greater than their car yet my hp factor was 150)?! In the IHRA, I was able to run EF/SA, and with a fairly factored car. Thanks to Bob Blackwell, Pat Cvengros and one or two others when the FWD classes were reduced from 16 to 5, I finally had a fairly factored combination.

I'm looking forward to racing in D1 next month, and will be bummed if my fellow Arizonan Alan isn't calling the race!

Don Kennedy 08-19-2024 09:44 AM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim H (Post 701003)
Anyone have any updates regarding Alan ? Please share. He is such a great announcer and truly a "car guy" hoping he will be back by Indy !

We sure miss Alan's knowledge announcing I Hope all is well soon at Indy. If not it will not be the normal race for this national event without Alan.
Do you have any news yet??

BZenzen 08-19-2024 09:52 AM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
He just posted yesterday that he had some personal business to clear up, and will be back at Indy

Tim H 08-19-2024 10:00 AM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BZenzen (Post 701616)
He just posted yesterday that he had some personal business to clear up, and will be back at Indy

This is great news ! You have made my morning, thanks for the update .

SuperStock fan 08-19-2024 01:44 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Awesome!! Fans can't wait for his voice on the air waves. Joe Castello, Jason Galvin and obnoxious Jason Logan are not the same.

jmcarter 08-19-2024 02:10 PM

Re: Where?s Alan Reinhardt?
 
Think Joe and others do an admirable job, but there is nobody with Alan’s flair or the legend himself Bob Frey.


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