Ppp shifter clean and relube?
 

Gday,
After 8 years or so, visibly there?s a bit of a build up of crud on the shifter mechanism
Will give it a clean, what are you guys using to relube it?
Cheers and thanks very much!
Paul

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Paul ,
maybe try a teflon dry lube spray . I use a CRC Dry Glide from Repco , I use it on my hoists plus heim joints on the caltracs .

Tex

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I have never cleaned nor relubed the shifters in any of my 3 race cars in the over 30 years I have been racing and everyone has worked flawlessly for thousands of passes.

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Gday Tex how are you going?
Ended up ringing them, Will relube with what they used initially,
Still works perfectly, but I can see **** from our perfectly dust free environment 😀👍
It?s getting a birthday
Thanks!
Cheers 😀👍

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Paul ,
dust free ? at willowbank ? hahaha my Plymouth still has dust in it .
doing good . maybe not as good as you @ winters . But getting back in the saddle to be ready for The Bend Grand Final .
Hope you are well .

Tex

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Good for you being proactive on possible maintenance issues that can occur in your specific climate conditions!

Some may not understand these circumstances that require some proactive maintenance. We get it & some others don't. Press on as I know you will without blinders on.

You are spot on by cleaning & lubing your shifter!

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there are few sportsman racers without the benefit of a full time team/employees that have as good no mind a better preventive maintenance program for their cars than I. My cars show it in their performance, appearance and most important wins!

That said the OP has a door car, not an open cockpit car and if he races in a dust bowl his preventative maintenance should start with the carb, not a component in the interior of the car but hey, some like to make it more difficult than it needs to be.

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G,day Ed,
Hey credit where its due, I enjoy reading your posts, this one also!

I usually get a grin out of them, and you can come up with good info.
I have no problems asking questions if i don't know something, hence this post, plenty i don't know.
Usually when you think you have a good handle on something you realize there can be another angle you haven't looked at and makes you realize you don't know as much as you think!
I do race in a dust bowl most of the time, and maintenance is something in my job i actually have a pretty good handle on.
I always get a grin when i hear from other people what is supposedly in my car or how i do things, they have no idea.
I do appreciate performance , appearance and wins, believe me.
I've won National c/ship, multiple local and regional c/ships.
But i don't go on about it, we are all only as good as our last result!

I can't see how i'm making anything more difficult, i enjoy working on the car as much as i do racing it.
Cheers
Paul:)

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Nothing wrong with cleaning and inspecting any mechanical part on the car. I would typically strip the car to the frame rails every winter, clean, inspect, fix anything not in new condition.

Better than running it for years without looking at anything and then wondering why it won't run or repeat, like some folks.

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Paul, appreciate the comments. all I’m saying is there are 100s of other critical parts of the car that require maintenance whether it preventative or replacement due to service life. If you’ve got all those handled then have it with the shifter, me, it’s not a concern. The shifter in my Firebird was just replaced a few months ago after being in service for 20 years. I can’t say if ithe mechanism was cleaned and relubed in the 4 years the previous owner of the car used it but it wasn’t for the 16 years/seasons I and my son used it over thousands of passes. Same thing with the shifter in his dragster. Never been cleaned or relubed since the car was built 10 years ago. Last the shifter in my former Chevelle too was never cleaner or relubed in the 27 years I owned it and the 17 years I raced it. None of my cars have ever broken a trans cable either but I do care spare cables.

That said, your car, your time, your money to do as you wish.

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-- does your famliy know where you are at ??--- i'm sure they are worried

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Would you be? :D

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Haters who’s egos are easily bruised by the truth!:p

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Is it possible to know too much?

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Based on a quick read of some the threads you have started, don’t worry you’ve got a long way to go before you’’re intelligent no mind know too much!

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i asked a question and you came back with an insult.

I get by OK.

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What you and a few others here didn’t do was reply to the OP’s question rather you reply with stupidity!

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Yes Mr. Parker, you do!

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Ed, just in case you might have forgotten, this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is how you replied to the question.
And OBTW, the man asked what to use for lube, not whether you lubed yours or not.

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You too haven’tt answered his question, I did and told him don’t bother.

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My PPP shifter has been acting up on the 1-2 shift going past 2nd so disassembled it either it needed maintenance or was worn out


The original lube was full of dirt cleaned it all off everywhere

Don't mess with the handle unless you have some patience.
Used Super Lube silicon grease as the assembly lube
Soaked the cable in trans fluid for a few days
Re installed making sure alignment and adjustment are as instructed.


Initially my impression was the spring that pushed the rod/disc up needed to slow down but with bench testing and in the car before and after the shift lever needed to speed up. That must be why PPP states most problems are in the cable.

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Signman,

I assume you fixed your issue?

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Must be a PPP shifter thing, never had an issue with the Turbo Action shifter in my Firebird no mind the OEM shifter in my Chevelle.

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OP's question said 'visibly there?s a bit of a build up of crud on the shifter mechanism. Will give it a clean, what are you guys using to relube it?'

If mine had a build up of crud on it, I would clean it too. A thin film of grease, maybe a synthetic like Amsoil would be fine, but would attract dirt, requiring it to be cleaned again at some point..

A dry film lube should also be okay. Not a lot of pressure on those parts. just need to work smoothly.

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Perhaps an upgrade is called for. Looks like a lightweight cable with standard Morse ends. Should not be hard to accomplish.

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If you know where Winters/TA Cheetah shifters originated, you understand they were intended to work in crappy, dirty environments.

They are functional, built to take a beating, but nothing precision about them.

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yea the B&M shifter in my dragster ain't been cleaned nor relubed either, that too must have been built "to work in crappy, dirty environments" :rolleyes:

Frankly, IMO, this thread is ridiculous! If a little crud on your shifter mechanism causes you to lose sleep then wipe it off and go race. Further, if you feel a relube is necessary too, chose your favorite lube, grease, oil and just dab it for christ sake. If you must be told what lube to use, IMO you don't belong behind the wheel of a race car but you could call the manufacturer and ask!

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If the thread is ridiculous why pay any attention to it.
Seems some have issue with dirt in their shifter myself being one we are only trying to help one another not judge.
When you're forced to pit on grass, dirt and stone dust is inevitable particularly from quads and carts.
Yes the TA shifter would not be affected until the cable wears out.

Sold mine since it would shift into high if my hand was on the handle due to the gate and spring set up. It's fine with air or electric auto shift not so great with 3 speed and manual shift. There would be no issue either way with a glide.

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Wrong, I've made thousands of 2-3 shifts with my Turbo Action shifter in the Firebird without issues!

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Ed,
You get exactly what you deserve!
I did try to ring the manufacturer before I put the post up, it rung out.
They way I look at it, whatever they used was a good choice, wasn?t causing trouble, good enough for me to reuse!
Thought someone on here may know, been a few threads about these shifters.
I did end up getting through and found out what I wanted..
Don?t belong behind the wheel of a race car?
Ed, you’re a **…itt!
Paul

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When I get my car back from the body & paint shop. I'm inspecting the shifter, among many other things. If it needs cleaning & lube, it will get it.

I'm pretty sure
will be along shortly! :D

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Paul, I do get exactly what I deserve, I worked for it, life is GREAT!:p

That said, my comments stand about your ridiculous thread asking about lube for a shifter mechanism.:rolleyes:

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May not apply to you but did so for me and others :rolleyes:
You're special though!:D

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not special, just have motor skills and hand eye coordination to manually shift a 3 speed trans that you obviously don't. :p

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Foot brake that dragster? Not able to hit a tree even if it fell on you.

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LOL! You are very special...... Ground Strap.... :rolleyes:

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Cleaning and lubrication worked as expected.
No more shifter issue.

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Mine turned out great also!
Cheers:)

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Same stuff really works on elect or hand cranked window regulators and seals also. Almost 40 years old and they now glide like new (saved replacing the motors...just cleaned out all that old dried up white lithium crud, sprayed all the tracks and seals, reinstalled them and like magic they glide up and down again). So, I also used it on the new shifter after installing it too!

Better than just new. Lol. Goes on wet, instantly dries, attracts less dust and dirt buildup.