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Terry Cain 10-23-2021 07:45 PM

TH350 Problem
 
60's pretty good first pass off of trailer. second pass will slow about 3 on 60. Third pass will slow even more. Will slow as much as a tenth on 60. Everything has been pulled a part and check by several people. New valve body. New clutches (several times) Only thing that has not been replaced is the case. Can take the convertor and put it on another (spare) trans and it is very consistent on 60's. Any suggestions? Need to add. I can put spare trans in and use same dipstick on both trans so fluid level is the same.

Angelo DiTocco 10-23-2021 09:08 PM

Re: TH350 Problem
 
do you have a pressure gauge for the trans?

Mark Yacavone 10-23-2021 09:49 PM

Re: TH350 Problem
 
Do you have a temp gauge on the trans?

Terry Cain 10-24-2021 05:52 AM

Re: TH350 Problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelo DiTocco (Post 650597)
do you have a pressure gauge for the trans?

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Henrys Toy 10-24-2021 08:56 AM

Re: TH350 Problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Cain (Post 650592)
60's pretty good first pass off of trailer. second pass will slow about 3 on 60. Third pass will slow even more. Will slow as much as a tenth on 60. Everything has been pulled a part and check by several people. New valve body. New clutches (several times) Only thing that has not been replaced is the case. Can take the convertor and put it on another (spare) trans and it is very consistent on 60's. Any suggestions? Need to add. I can put spare trans in and use same dipstick on both trans so fluid level is the same.

Good Morning Terry,
I had a similar problem a few years back with a GM/Chevrolet PG case.
I had changed over from "sleeve type bushings" to Roller Bearings and followed the recommended clearance tightening and the trans would slow the car down as we started hot lapping the car. I loosened the "end play" about .003 to .005 overall and the problem stopped.
My spare Glide ( also a GM case) was set up with the recommended tighter clearence's and wouldn't slow down as it got hotter.
So is the case growing and tightening up or is it the front pump, maybe its an alum. drum or hub, sorry I don't have a exact answer, but I found running a little more end play clearence did "fix" my problem at the time.

Respectfully,
Henry Kunz 1534 H/SA

Terry Cain 10-24-2021 07:13 PM

Re: TH350 Problem
 
It does have the aluminum stuff in it and also a new pump.

Mark Yacavone 10-24-2021 10:33 PM

Re: TH350 Problem
 
I don't know about the 'glide but you don't want to loosen a T 350 up much. Keeping them snug helps them in the direct drum area.
I asked about the temp, because, if the converter is already on the loose side of things, the warmer fluid could hurt it.

ss3011 10-24-2021 10:36 PM

Re: TH350 Problem
 
You probably have a seal that is leaking , which is causing a clutch to drag . The hotter the fluid gets the greater the leak that is causing the clutch to drag . What type of ring seals do you have on the pump tower ? Typical types are cast iron with a locking feature or two types of plastic seals one solid , or the second type with a diagonal cut end . The best seal is the solid teflon .

Terry Cain 10-25-2021 07:21 AM

Re: TH350 Problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ss3011 (Post 650670)
You probably have a seal that is leaking , which is causing a clutch to drag . The hotter the fluid gets the greater the leak that is causing the clutch to drag . What type of ring seals do you have on the pump tower ? Typical types are cast iron with a locking feature or two types of plastic seals one solid , or the second type with a diagonal cut end . The best seal is the solid teflon .

Teflon and front pump has been out a zillion times. Not sure on temp but don't think that is the problem. Deep pan so it has an extra 2 qts. Sharver originally done trans yrs back. He plugged the coolant lines and did some drilling on pump to redirect fluid. The pump has been replaced and wondering if maybe that could be problem?

ss3011 10-25-2021 09:38 AM

Re: TH350 Problem
 
I have talked about this before , but deep pans are not designed to increase the cold fill volume , but to lower the fluid level away from the rotating parts . As fluid gets hotter it expands and if that expansion gets the fluid up into the rotating parts it will mix up like a milk shake . That is bad for windage and will also hurt pressure stability , lubrication , and cooling . A deep pan with 2 extra quarts of fluid in the trans will be even worse . Typically you need a re-calibrated dipstick which compensates for the deeper pan .
Since you have a problem with one trans and no problem with another , I still believe a leaking seal is more likely .


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