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Irvin Johns 07-10-2008 09:46 PM

NHRA Fastest 128 cars
 
Nhra posted fastest 128 cars make the field. Class winners can not bump in.

http://www.nhra.com/content/divnews....0497&zoneid=12

Effective July 14, 2008, class winners in Super Stock and Stock will no longer be automatically placed into the eliminator fields. All national and divisional Super Stock and Stock eliminator fields will be based on the quickest 128 qualifiers.

Stephen & Horace Johnson 07-11-2008 08:43 AM

Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Irvin Johns (Post 75108)
Nhra posted fastest 128 cars make the field. Class winners can not bump in.

http://www.nhra.com/content/divnews....0497&zoneid=12

Effective July 14, 2008, class winners in Super Stock and Stock will no longer be automatically placed into the eliminator fields. All national and divisional Super Stock and Stock eliminator fields will be based on the quickest 128 qualifiers.


wonder what brought this up??

Jack Matyas 07-11-2008 09:01 AM

Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars
 
At least everyone will race to the finish line -- no 1000' stuff at Indy unlike Englishtown where there was plenty of lifting .Anyone venture a guess of what the "bump" will be this year in Stock and Superstock ...It really should be the fastest 128 cars ( opps - and / or trucks ) .

PS-- Anyone been asked if we wanted this change?

Dick Butler 07-11-2008 09:44 AM

Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars
 
Unfortunately it can make winning class even less important. Yes it makes the paper cars and bogus cars need to run harder to assure qualifying at Indy but..... what about the class where only thrashed, factored cars run? Probably wont happen that much but....
The question is if the elim is top heavy with cars running way under will their runs be enough at one meet to move their HP ?
I agree with question about what about race with 80 entries? Will the field size be limited to 64? or less? to encourage running fast there too? Seems like it should be arranged to affect ALL meets not just Indy where enough cars attend for a full field.
How does it affect points meets with no 128 car entrants?
The Big Question is WHY? Class winners are important..

stefan callender 07-11-2008 11:21 AM

Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars
 
WTF is a paper car???

Tim Kish 07-11-2008 11:24 AM

Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stefan callender (Post 75162)
WTF is a paper car???

A car that exists according to the NHRA as a result of whatever input they accepted but there may/may not be any ceritifiable data to show that the combination was actually produced by the factory.

Casey Miles 07-11-2008 11:56 AM

Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars
 
NHRA should be embrassing the racers that are making an effort just trying to attend the U.S. Nationals. Never mind making some of them totaly discouraged by changing the ground rules after the event's already been open for entries.
As an owner of a car that I know can't run .5 under, it will make me look at the races that I can attend to get into the main eleminator where a bottle of shoe polish evens everything up. I'm not the only one that races like that and I would expect that the racers that are in the same situation will give a second thought before going to a race that will effectively make the car counts go down. Stock might as well be the same as Comp, the engines are modifed production pieces, so qualifing should be the same as Comp at National events. I think that that is where NHRA is heading in a direction that will effect racing as we know it today. Stock will be a 32 to 64 car field and make them dial the number that they qualifed with, no dialing in anymore. Look at Comp these days, at most of the races there isn't enough cars entered to make a full field and it will bleed off to the other classes as well.
Casey Miles
248H
Used to be F/S, Now E/S That 4 little HP did it!

Jason 07-11-2008 12:07 PM

Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Butler (Post 75147)
Unfortunately it can make winning class even less important......

The Big Question is WHY? Class winners are important..


Wrong Dick. Class winners USE to be important.

Now the variety of makes and models will fade away. Racers who cannot run fast, STAY HOME. Even if you have been a consistant class winner over the years, you are not wanted at Indy anymore. Guess the big buck racers got tired of being embarrassed during eliminations by a lowly racer who proudly did his own engine/chassis, pulled with an small trailer, and won class.

Its over and done.

mr305 07-11-2008 12:46 PM

Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars
 
Amen jason!

Jack Matyas 07-11-2008 01:12 PM

Re: NHRA Fastest 128 cars
 
Jason -- Winning the class Wally at Indy is important -- always was and always will be ! ! That being said why should anyone get a "Free Pass" into the eliminator ?
Also -- you're wrong about the variety of makes and models -- this year with the combination of F.I. and carbs we'll see old and new more than ever - no 1 brand or type has a stranglehold on any class . Its Indy -- bring you're best stuff.............


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