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Alan Warman 05-23-2009 10:12 PM

Need Help 200 Metric Question
 
I need help, I'm quickly running out of time,I'm trying to get my car going for the Dallas race next weekend. The problem is that I bought a used Dynamic Metric 200, it was built on a Chevy case and I needed a BOP case.So when I changed out the case I freshened it up, there was nothing unusual, just some scorched clutches.Now that I have it installed, there is no hi gear. When I lift checked it, I could not feel it go into third gear, but when I pulled it back into second, I could feel second re-engage. Then I let it down and test drove it, and sure enough, when I shifted into third, it would just flare up. I pulled it back out and checked every thing. The only thing I could find was that I had put the wrong check ball in the front pump, as well as the fact that the Chevy case was built on a lock up unit, and the BOP case is a non-lock up unit. Thinking that must have been the problem, I fixed it and reinstalled. STILL NO THIRD GEAR!!! HELP!!!

Mark Yacavone 05-24-2009 04:26 AM

Re: Need Help 200 Metric Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Warman (Post 121876)
I need help, I'm quickly running out of time,I'm trying to get my car going for the Dallas race next weekend. The problem is that I bought a used Dynamic Metric 200, it was built on a Chevy case and I needed a BOP case.So when I changed out the case I freshened it up, there was nothing unusual, just some scorched clutches.Now that I have it installed, there is no hi gear. When I lift checked it, I could not feel it go into third gear, but when I pulled it back into second, I could feel second re-engage. Then I let it down and test drove it, and sure enough, when I shifted into third, it would just flare up. I pulled it back out and checked every thing. The only thing I could find was that I had put the wrong check ball in the front pump, as well as the fact that the Chevy case was built on a lock up unit, and the BOP case is a non-lock up unit. Thinking that must have been the problem, I fixed it and reinstalled. STILL NO THIRD GEAR!!! HELP!!!

Did you plug the governor passage in the case?

Alan Warman 05-24-2009 01:20 PM

Re: Need Help 200 Metric Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 121888)
Did you plug the governor passage in the case?

Mark
I did not plug the governor passage,because the other unit did not have it plug ed.So I went out and plug ed it off,still no third.Put in a governor and a new governor cover,still no third.

Mark Yacavone 05-24-2009 02:05 PM

Re: Need Help 200 Metric Question
 
Is it a reverse pattern then?

Alan Warman 05-24-2009 02:14 PM

Re: Need Help 200 Metric Question
 
No Sir,I was told it was a forward patten valve body.Before I bought it I talked to Frank Lupo,and he said the early ones he made were all forward pattern.

Mark Yacavone 05-24-2009 02:23 PM

Re: Need Help 200 Metric Question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Warman (Post 121940)
No Sir,I was told it was a forward patten valve body.Before I bought it I talked to Frank Lupo,and he said the early ones he made were all forward pattern.


Seems to me the governor passage would have to be plugged on the case side, above the valve body.
Otherwise ,you're going to have to trace the fluid from the VB to the servo and direct.
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F/SA TSM 05-27-2009 06:07 PM

Re: Need Help 200 Metric Question
 
first time with you guys a got problem register my self to the forum. my advice is that you miss the check ball in the pump. Th 200 need that ball to have 3rd gear .

Alan Warman 05-27-2009 09:33 PM

Re: Need Help 200 Metric Question
 
F/SA TSM
That is the first thing I checked,built enough of these in the eighties to remeber that.

F/SA TSM 05-27-2009 09:49 PM

Re: Need Help 200 Metric Question
 
just in case sorry

Alan Warman 05-27-2009 10:49 PM

Re: Need Help 200 Metric Question
 
Don't be sorry,I am taking all advice on this problem.It looks like we traced the problem to the valve body.And welcome to Classracer.A lot of good people on here.


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