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Doug Estabrook 05-27-2009 08:12 PM

Single wheelie bar
 
Saw a picture of an A/SA Nova stocker at Maple Grove last weekend that had a single wheelie bar on it (car was built by Ken Keir). What's the advantage of that vs. a pair?
Thanks ahead of time,

Doug

Bill Grubbs 05-28-2009 06:48 AM

Re: Single wheelie bar
 
Now, this is my opinion only .

Safety...Have you ever seen a double wheel wheelie bar break or bend just one tube? It gets ugly real fast. At the Memphis Nat. in 2007 A. Bertozzi "lost" one side of his wheelie bars, and crossed the centerline between the tree and the 60' cone. He almost landed on the car in the other lane.

Now, when a single wheel wheelie bar is designed correctly and a tube breaks you just come up higher (depending on the car it could be significantly higher). When the integrity of one of the three tubes is compromised the other tubes just fold up (if you are using heim joints).

There are some other minor benifits, but safety is the biggest on for me. I love my wife, and want to keep her around as long as I can.

Bill

Dragsinger 05-28-2009 07:52 AM

Re: Single wheelie bar
 
The note from Bill seems reasonable to me. I also have begun to see a few of the single bars. My question, with a 12 bolt rear or other rear with cover, how is the bar attached/centered on the housing? Who is building or selling as a kit?

Bob Pagano 05-28-2009 10:58 AM

Re: Single wheelie bar
 
I have seen this one but there must be more.

https://www.appliedracing.net/produc...9c2e240fb0e74a

Bill Grubbs 05-28-2009 11:34 AM

Re: Single wheelie bar
 
The bottom mount on our wheelie bars is for the single tube. It was designed this way since it is in tension, the two upper bars are in compression which for a single bar would be a significant failure point.
The lower bar is mounted to a 4130 tube bent in a half moon, attached to the housing at either end of the center section, and then also in the middle to the center section. It almost looks as if it forms a cradle for the centersection.

Like I said before This is only my opinion, but it is the reason and way it is done on our car.

Bill

mannymen 05-28-2009 12:44 PM

Re: Single wheelie bar
 
Bill can you post a few pics of your setup?

Doug Estabrook 05-28-2009 06:46 PM

Re: Single wheelie bar
 
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This is the wheeliebar set-up I was talking about.
Doug

Alan Roehrich 05-28-2009 07:14 PM

Re: Single wheelie bar
 
That's a nice looking set up.

To carry what Bill said further, regular two wheel bars will try to steer the car unless it leaves perfectly flat.

Anthony was in a huge wheelstand at Memphis, and the bars steered him right into the other lane, even though he had the orange wheels that are not supposed to steer the car. At a certain point, the car will no longer be flat and square when it gets really high, and all it takes is a little bias to unload one rear tire or the other slightly. Once it starts, it only gets worse, and fast.

Jesse Knapp 05-28-2009 08:51 PM

Re: Single wheelie bar
 
Thanks for posting the photo. That is a really nice set up. In fact the entire rear is well done. Anyone know who sells this kit?

Al Reed 05-29-2009 12:28 AM

Re: Single wheelie bar
 
Shouldn't the spring/s be on the top bars (as they are under compression, not being pulled/compression)??


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