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Aubrey N Bruneau 06-05-2009 08:00 PM

Roller Rockers on Stocker Engine ?
 
After having more fun in Mission than I can really believe, I seem to have been bitten pretty bad !
I am preparing the car to go to Edmonton for the IHRA Rocky Mountain Nationals, and for that, I am going to install a set of Comp stainless roller rockers ( the engine can be tough on the intake rockers ).

My question is, should I expect huge gains in HP, like is suggested in the advertising ?
I'm skeptcal. What do members here feel that I will notice with the roller rockers, over the factory type stamped steel parts ?

just trying to plan

Alan Roehrich 06-06-2009 06:01 AM

Re: Roller Rockers on Stocker Engine ?
 
I seriously doubt you'll see huge gains. A couple of HP, maybe. A well executed valvetrain on a Stock engine doesn't leave a whole lot of room. If you have the Holroyd stuff or something similar, and a good set of 7/16" 0.125" wall pushrods, you likely won't see any measurable gains with roller rockers. In fact, in going back to 7/16" studs from the Holroyd 9/16" stud, I'd be very concerned about breaking rocker studs. Read an old Chevy Power Manual and they warn you that roller rockers are notorious for breaking rocker studs. That's why stud girdles were invented.

Aubrey N Bruneau 06-06-2009 06:28 AM

Re: Roller Rockers on Stocker Engine ?
 
Thanks Alan,
As I'm sure is for most of us, we always want to go faster !

Can't fit 7/16" pushrods in my engine... intake runners leave no room.
I have Manton .125" wall 3/8" pushrods. Lift at valve is between .500" - .510"
I have only 7/16" studs. However, I was very careful to not mill anyore from the top of the stud boss than necessary. In fact, these new rockers are very VERY close to the base.

Changing to the roller rockers is more to eleviate my intake "fatigue" problem, than anything else ( using Crane "Nitro-Carb" BBC 1.7 ratio rockers, which are somewhat tough to find now ).

Jim Cassels 06-06-2009 06:53 AM

Re: Roller Rockers on Stocker Engine ?
 
Aubrey,
Not familiar with IHRA but do they allow roller rockers on a stock motor?

Bob Pagano 06-06-2009 07:20 AM

Re: Roller Rockers on Stocker Engine ?
 
Roller rockers are legal in IHRA

Jim Cassels 06-06-2009 07:43 AM

Re: Roller Rockers on Stocker Engine ?
 
Thanks Bob I was not aware.

Jim Cassels 06-06-2009 07:07 PM

Re: Roller Rockers on Stocker Engine ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smracer2002 (Post 124150)
Its good to see a W headed motor out there.

Thread jack,Jim C how you doing?.

Unjack.

Chris email me. jimmyca@windstream.net

Aubrey N Bruneau 06-06-2009 09:44 PM

Re: Roller Rockers on Stocker Engine ?
 
Thanks SM

Yes, I think I finally got her working too !

Aubrey N Bruneau 06-07-2009 11:02 PM

Re: Roller Rockers on Stocker Engine ?
 
Thanks Al... good point
Rockers are on now. All's good. Geometry is dead on.

I actually had a bit of an issue with the stamped steel rockers when I assembled the engine. These new Manton pushrods have a different tip than normal, and I found all the intake rockers getting "bumped" on the inner/underside, by the pushrod, when near full lift. I had to take my die grinder, and create an ever-so-slight little "pocket", so the pushrod would not touch it.

The other thing too, is that my valve lift is very near my maximum, and changing pushrods... especially if slightly longer, could put my lift over the top.

randy wilson 06-08-2009 10:05 AM

Re: Roller Rockers on Stocker Engine ?
 
pushrod length does not change valve lift or duration. only cam profile, rocker ratio, and valve lash can do that.


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