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JrRacer2033 09-22-2009 02:26 PM

Heads-Up Runs
 
I was wondering what everyone thought about people getting off of it at 1000' and the purpose behind this. I understand getting HP is the main issue but why have the power if you are not going to use it.

AC 09-22-2009 02:47 PM

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Randy 09-22-2009 02:54 PM

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aw jeez

Lol

hadtobethere 09-22-2009 03:06 PM

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aw jeez

...Now, that is funny

Ed Fernandez 09-22-2009 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JrRacer2033 (Post 142059)
I was wondering what everyone thought about people getting off of it at 1000' and the purpose behind this. I understand getting HP is the main issue but why have the power if you are not going to use it.

Don't feel picked on,this subject has been beat into the ground a few times on here,mostly when a new poorly factored combo comes out and causes mass hysteria.I don't go fast enough to click it at 1,000"
so maybe someone brave enough to get up and explain it will post on it.
It sure aint Jr dragster racing though.

Mike Carr 09-22-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JrRacer2033 (Post 142059)
I was wondering what everyone thought about people getting off of it at 1000' and the purpose behind this. I understand getting HP is the main issue but why have the power if you are not going to use it.

I posted this a few weeks ago, to another person who thought lifting early was "not racing".

"Flat out racing is great, but sometimes you have to dump to protect. I'll use the following example, Jim. Say early in the year, you and I have a heads-up run in, say, A/SA. You have a fairly common car (I'll use a '64 Fury Max Wedge as an example). I have a car that is pretty rare (say a '64 or '65 Nascar single 4 Hemi). You and I run Class somewhere early in the year. We both run flat out, both running 10.0's., and you get the win. You have plenty of other cars in your Class to bring the average for your combination down. I don't So, for running flat out, I get hit with HP, you don't, and now I'm further behind. Which can hurt later in the year, especially when it comes time for Indy, trying to win Class or even qualifying. It's this scenario, why racers, when at 1000' they realize they aren't going to win, will dump to protect their HP. It's not just Stock and S/S. David Rampy has done the same thing in Comp with his A/EA Bantam over the years. If he knows he won't get there (or even if he think he will but knows he'll kill the Index if he does), he'll dump, save the Index, to give himself a better chance down the road at winning. After 70+ National Event wins, I'd say Rampy's idea is a pretty smart one."

You WANT the power to go fast and/or to win a heads-up, but also have to be smart about how/when to USE it.

Bryan Worner 09-22-2009 06:38 PM

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AC should get the award for post of the year!!!!

treessavoy 09-22-2009 09:00 PM

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Lifting is not drag racing.Period!

Drag racing was invented as a sport to get form one stripe to the other as QUICKLY as you can.

Lifting, dumping, etc is an economic decision allowing you to stay competitive and win more money by sand bagging. It's the same as the .90 cars except you don't use electronics.

BUT, I'm a purist because I go so far back and I'm not in it for the money and I don't have near as much money in my car as you guys do, mine built from used parts just so I can go racing once in a while so my expectations from the sport are different from yours.

BTW, I raced Rampy and his SG opel all around AL and GA for years. Tried so hard to beat him once that I left on the second yellow lol!

Beat me up,

JimR

JrRacer2033 09-22-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Carr (Post 142147)
I posted this a few weeks ago, to another person who thought lifting early was "not racing".

"Flat out racing is great, but sometimes you have to dump to protect. I'll use the following example, Jim. Say early in the year, you and I have a heads-up run in, say, A/SA. You have a fairly common car (I'll use a '64 Fury Max Wedge as an example). I have a car that is pretty rare (say a '64 or '65 Nascar single 4 Hemi). You and I run Class somewhere early in the year. We both run flat out, both running 10.0's., and you get the win. You have plenty of other cars in your Class to bring the average for your combination down. I don't So, for running flat out, I get hit with HP, you don't, and now I'm further behind. Which can hurt later in the year, especially when it comes time for Indy, trying to win Class or even qualifying. It's this scenario, why racers, when at 1000' they realize they aren't going to win, will dump to protect their HP. It's not just Stock and S/S. David Rampy has done the same thing in Comp with his A/EA Bantam over the years. If he knows he won't get there (or even if he think he will but knows he'll kill the Index if he does), he'll dump, save the Index, to give himself a better chance down the road at winning. After 70+ National Event wins, I'd say Rampy's idea is a pretty smart one."

You WANT the power to go fast and/or to win a heads-up, but also have to be smart about how/when to USE it.

So my next question then, when would you people classify an acceptable time to run it flat out? Indy Class and thats it?

treessavoy 09-22-2009 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JrRacer2033 (Post 142187)
So my next question then, when would you people classify an acceptable time to run it flat out? Indy Class and thats it?

Once again you missed the point because of the current mindset.

You run flat out EVERY time you race, that's drag racing!

JimR


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