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Mark Faul 09-22-2009 04:08 PM

Frequency of double redlights
 
With opinions about the POSSIBLE rule change ranging from "this is the greatest thing since sliced bread" to "this will be the end of class racing", how many races actually have both racers redlit?

I race a lot and have only had 1 race in the past 5 years (or more) that would have been affected.

I'm guessing a very small percentage.

Opinions?

Sean Kennedy 09-22-2009 04:20 PM

Re: Frequency of double redlights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Faul (Post 142100)
With opinions about the POSSIBLE rule change ranging from "this is the greatest thing since sliced bread" to "this will be the end of class racing", how many races actually have both racers redlit?

I race a lot and have only had 1 race in the past 5 years (or more) that would have been affected.

I'm guessing a very small percentage.

Opinions?

Opinions? Nope.

Fact is you are 100% correct.

Clint 09-22-2009 04:20 PM

Re: Frequency of double redlights
 
I'm all for not having to see the other guys green bulb as my tree comes down.

Michael Beard 09-22-2009 04:44 PM

Re: Frequency of double redlights
 
I had one instance (loser) of it this year, which is probably about average, 1 every year or so.

So the extremes of the argument can come back with "It doesn't matter, so why change it?" vs "Since it's not that big of a deal, why not change it?"

-=shrug=-

Tony Janes 09-22-2009 04:54 PM

Re: Frequency of double redlights
 
Mark, the amount of double red lights is probably less than 2% and where the fast car is worse is less than 1 %. Other interesting statistics heads up less than 10 % in stock, mostly 2 % to 4 %. In super stock the figure is smaller due to more classes.

Mike Carr 09-22-2009 06:32 PM

Re: Frequency of double redlights
 
Mark, I've been in a few double-redlight races. Maybe three or four. As a FWD Stocker, I always left FIRST, but never was my redlight WORST. The one that sticks in my memory was my first NHRA race in Billy Nees' HF/SA Sunbird. -.001 red, and 18.012 on an 18.01. My opponent, Pat Molle, was -.023 and broke something. Still remember it well...lol.

bill dedman 09-22-2009 06:47 PM

Re: Frequency of double redlights
 
Clint said, "I'm all for not having to see the other guys green bulb as my tree comes down."

Three questions (and, I'm not being facetious.)

1. What does this have to do with double red light rule?

2. If you're going to leave last, you're going to see it with either system, unless the system doesn't change, and he red lights.

3. Was that a joke?

Why don't they "blind" the trees so that the driver in either lane can't see the lights for the other car?

Tony Janes 09-22-2009 07:32 PM

Re: Frequency of double redlights
 
Fontana dose blind there tree including the red light, NHRA leaves the red light open, Some strips have an open tree.

Clint 09-22-2009 08:47 PM

Re: Frequency of double redlights
 
I was under the assumption that with a rule like this, the tree wouldnt light up the red or green in the slower lane until both cars leave. Maybe im way off, I didnt take the time to read all 9 pages of posts on the topic. That would be a nice advantage to those of us trying to concentrate on our side of the tree with a faster car though.

Sean Kennedy 09-22-2009 11:22 PM

Re: Frequency of double redlights
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 142158)
Fontana dose blind there tree including the red light, NHRA leaves the red light open, Some strips have an open tree.

Woodburn blinds out all the lights as well.

I would like to see double red light data for the tracks that blind both bulbs. Maybe go back 10 or 15 years. That would be an accurate projection of how often double red lights would happen under the proposed system.


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