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Philip Saran 01-01-2011 04:01 PM

A different SSGT question?
 
Please educate me,

IF I was to run my 383 Duster as a SSGT car, the long block parts needs
to be legal for the year claimed (70 or 71), the correct carb must be used,
but what about the intake manifold? Aftermarket OK?

Other than that, cam and pistons #'s must be what is in the tech sheets?

As you can see it's pretty boring around here this morning.

Wade Mahaffey 01-01-2011 04:25 PM

Re: A different SSGT question?
 
I thought it was any intake (right number of carbs in your case as claimed 1 4B ) that fits under your flat hood. But check futher...I'm new at this. LOL

Wade Mahaffey

Paul Precht 01-01-2011 04:57 PM

Re: A different SSGT question?
 
It's a Superstock motor put in a different year body. I'm building the same motor, it's rated at 304 HP for GT. In a Duster you'll fall higher than GT/HA so you'll need a full certified cage for starts.

Jeff Teuton 01-01-2011 05:52 PM

Re: A different SSGT question?
 
Pistons can have notches in SS I think and I think there was an available scoop in a 74, so a live scoop is ok since the 383 had a scoop.

Jeff Lee 01-01-2011 06:00 PM

Re: A different SSGT question?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Saran (Post 230877)
Please educate me,

IF I was to run my 383 Duster as a SSGT car, the long block parts needs
to be legal for the year claimed (70 or 71), the correct carb must be used,
but what about the intake manifold? Aftermarket OK?

Other than that, cam and pistons #'s must be what is in the tech sheets?

As you can see it's pretty boring around here this morning.

SS must have heads (casting, valves, chamber, runner volume), carb, piston configuration (top view; i.e., if NHRA says "flat with notches" it can't have a dome), bore / stroke / deck tolerance, accepted rods per NHRA tech guide.
Any valve train or intake (relative to OEM configuration), porting within specs, and a few other items allowed. Consult rulebook. SS is the next level above Stock.

Philip Saran 01-01-2011 07:41 PM

Re: A different SSGT question?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Precht (Post 230883)
It's a Superstock motor put in a different year body. I'm building the same motor, it's rated at 304 HP for GT. In a Duster you'll fall higher than GT/HA so you'll need a full certified cage for starts.

Paul, if I looked at the numbers correctly, my 1974 Duster has to be at the
highest weight of a 360 Duster at 3400lbs so it should fall into SSGT/FA,
but maybe I did it wrong?

Jeff Lee 01-01-2011 10:37 PM

Re: A different SSGT question?
 
Enter shipping weight for chosen body style -> 3242.00 lbs
Enter factored HP for chosen engine -> 300.00 HP
Enter A for automatic, M for stick -> a A or M

CALCULATED VALUES:
Minus 250lb permitted shipping weight adjustment 2992.00
Plus 250lb permitted shipping weight adjustment 3492.00
"Natural" class -> GT/FA Wgt Break-> 10.81 GT/F
Lowest legal class -> GT/DA Wgt Break-> 9.97 GT/D
Highest legal class -> GT/HA Wgt Break-> 11.64 GT/H



Class GT/DA GT/EA GT/FA GT/GA GT/HA
Index 10.50 10.65 10.80 10.90 11.05
0.3 under index 10.20 10.35 10.50 10.60 10.75
0.5 under index 10.00 10.15 10.30 10.40 10.55
0.8 under index 9.70 9.85 10.00 10.10 10.25

MINIMUM Weight 2992.00 3000.00 3150.00 3300.00 3450.00
MINIMUM Race Weight incl. 170 lbs for driver 3162.00 3170.00 3320.00 3470.00 3620.00

Estimated HP required for E.T. #1 (SEE NOTE 1)
Index 516.9 496.7 500.1 509.6 511.4
0.3 under index 563.9 541.2 544.2 554.1 555.4
0.5 under index 598.4 573.8 576.5 586.7 587.6
0.8 under index 655.7 627.8 630.0 640.6 640.7

"NOTE 1: Flywheel HP requirement to achieve E.T. based on the Chrysler estimation equation:
HP = Weight * 200/(ET^3)
using the Minimum Race Weight."

Estimated HP required for E.T. #2 (SEE NOTE 2)
Index 498.8 479.3 482.6 491.8 493.5
0.3 under index 544.1 522.2 525.2 534.8 536.0
0.5 under index 577.5 553.7 556.4 566.2 567.0
0.8 under index 632.7 605.9 608.0 618.2 618.3

"NOTE 2: Flywheel HP requirement to achieve E.T. based on uniform acceleration equation:
HP = Weight * 193/(ET^3)
using the Minimum Race Weight."

Philip Saran 01-02-2011 03:22 AM

Re: A different SSGT question?
 
Thank you Jeff Lee, now all I need is for the Lotto numbers to fall my way....

Jim Hanig 01-02-2011 12:06 PM

Re: A different SSGT question?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Precht (Post 230883)
It's a Superstock motor put in a different year body. I'm building the same motor, it's rated at 304 HP for GT. In a Duster you'll fall higher than GT/HA so you'll need a full certified cage for starts.

Not so ,it starts at gt/ga

Patric Fox 01-02-2011 01:01 PM

Re: A different SSGT question?
 
I thought for Super Stock that you can use any intake manifold as long as it is configured the same as the original manifold.


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