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will prater 06-12-2011 02:40 PM

Car classification ?
 
I am having trouble using the class guide to figure out what class my car would fit using the 1970- 383 (304hp rating) GT motor with OEM heads for fresh air package.The car is a 68 Dart set up for SS with either hood, GTS or hemi.
Thanks

Ernie Neal 06-12-2011 04:49 PM

Re: Car classification ?
 
I think the hemi or even a plain jane 318 trim car is a natural D car @ 3055 lbs. and could drop to C weight @ 2905 or add and run E @ 3210. I think the GTS package is natural F @ 3365 can run E @ 3210 or G @ 3520. Might want to get this verified, I think it's right maybe Travis can check it when he gets back from Joliet.

Ernie

SStockDart 06-12-2011 06:09 PM

Re: Car classification ?
 
I don't see where you got the 304 HP rating? With OEM heads, the GT Rating is 300HP. With replacement heads, the HP is 309. That would put the OEM engine in GT/EA with the fiberglass components, and GT/FA with the GTS body. With the replacement heads, it would fit in GT/DA and GT/FA.

Ed Wright 06-12-2011 09:08 PM

Re: Car classification ?
 
Shoulda stayed away, right Will? LOL

will prater 06-12-2011 10:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 263414)
Shoulda stayed away, right Will? LOL

Yep, every since the late 70's when you corrupted me with your SS car then the Super Modified Camaro I have been addicted. Deb is real proud of you and has a few words for you................hahahaha

will prater 06-12-2011 10:16 PM

Re: Car classification ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SStockDart (Post 263396)
I don't see where you got the 304 HP rating? With OEM heads, the GT Rating is 300HP. With replacement heads, the HP is 309. That would put the OEM engine in GT/EA with the fiberglass components, and GT/FA with the GTS body. With the replacement heads, it would fit in GT/DA and GT/FA.

I thought I read in the 1970 Dodge car classification guide for GT it was 304 for auto and 300 for stick. But all of this is pretty confusing for an old computer illiterate guy. I guess I am not too sure where to be looking. Jim Hale has a motor for me and told me I could run my hemi hood because it was a fresh air package motor. He wasn't exactly sure where it would fall as a GT car. And I think he said it was a 70.

Thanks for the help.

Paul Precht 06-12-2011 10:55 PM

Re: Car classification ?
 
70 383 is 304HP in GT, I'm doing the same motor, which will power my Sport Fury until the Challenger is done.

SStockDart 06-13-2011 01:03 AM

Re: Car classification ?
 
You are correct, and I was wrong. I now see where the 1970 - 383 is 304 HP with the oem heads, for GT. That would put a 1968 lightweight in GT/DA and a GTS in F.

will prater 06-13-2011 09:26 AM

Re: Car classification ?
 
Thanks for all the info everyone. Now one more question. How did you determine the DA or FA classification. Type slow as I am old!

Stewart Way 06-13-2011 10:02 AM

Re: Car classification ?
 
Will
You can't just run the 68 hemi Hood. You have to claim the 68 hemi body to run the hood and that includes a lot of other things. The fenders, window straps and on the Dart it is a different wheelbase than a stock Dart. This all depends on the job tech does. Your base weight would be 3020. DA would be 304 x 9.5 + 170 = 3058. FA is 10.5 x 304 + 170 = 3362. Think they round down to the closest 5lb. You might check my math but I think its right.


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