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art leong 08-27-2011 04:15 PM

Symptoms of broken sprague in converter
 
What would the symptoms be from a broken sprague in the converter?

Rick Shirey 08-27-2011 05:18 PM

Re: Symptoms of broken sprague in converter
 
Art, I had this problem several times and the best indicator is the rpms dropping below converter flash rpm aftergear change.

Mark Yacavone 08-27-2011 05:27 PM

Re: Symptoms of broken sprague in converter
 
Art, With a broken sprag, the stator no longer functions as such, therefore a torque converter reverts to a just a fluid coupling.
Very low stall speed but a great top end!

art leong 08-27-2011 05:58 PM

Re: Symptoms of broken sprague in converter
 
I think I've been fighting the programming on the ECU for 2 months for nothing.
When I put the car in gear (1st) with the brakes on and come up against the converter (around 2200) the motor goes crazy and usually stalls.
When I don't hold the brake (on jack stands) It revs normally, but when I lock up the brakes it stalls.
I've been trying to tune the lower rpms but no changes seem to make any difference.
I hurt the trans last year but didn't think I hurt the converter.
The last time out the car left like a stone With the rpms going from 2700 to 3300 up and down for about 100 feet then it cleared up and ran normal. Short time was off by 6 tenths (not a typo). Car made plenty of horsepower and torque on the chassis dyno, So I thought it had something to do with the low end tune.

Mark Yacavone 08-27-2011 08:32 PM

Re: Symptoms of broken sprague in converter
 
A roller sprag can lock and slip intermittently , but it usually won't do that for long until it quits applying altogether.

Alan Warman 08-29-2011 12:48 PM

Re: Symptoms of broken sprague in converter
 
This might be the problem I had all last year. I built a old school TH200 for my car, the front pump uses power guild splines. Had a converter built for it. When I first but it together the converter would brake stall to 3200 and flash to 4800 but it had no high gear. So after talking to several people I bought a Billy Lynn valve body and Billy walked me though the build. Well it had high gear now but the converter would only brake stall to about 2200 and flash to 4200. The car would run dead on times and had 1 to 2 more mph than it should have for the ET that it ran. Does this sound like my problem.


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