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Mike Savelle 12-03-2011 06:42 PM

is something wrong with this picture
 
2010 Mustang ---- 67 Camaro

2.08/160 valves 194/150 valves
5.12/5.12 cam lift 3.90/410 cam lift
roller cam hyd. flat cam
1.62 rockers 1.50 rockers
56cc heads 62cc
fuel injected Qjet
not sure on pushrods ??
NHRA/ 295 hp NHRA/290 hp
both run E/SA

SSGN 12-03-2011 07:08 PM

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Nope perfectly normal ,did you not click the NOS bottle factory installed on the Camaro???I saw them on paper LOL

Kevin

Maverick 12-03-2011 07:29 PM

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I got a question about the ford cam lift. Is this on the pushrod side? Or is this a SOHC/DOHC? If it has pushrods, that means the theoretical valve lift would be .829 inches. Am I seeing some thing the wrong way. THAT IS A LOT OF VALVE LIFT TO ME. :rolleyes:

eddie c 12-03-2011 08:27 PM

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What is the difference in the cubic inches of the engines?
ed:confused:

Andrew Hill 12-03-2011 08:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie c (Post 296888)
What is the difference in the cubic inches of the engines?
ed:confused:

2010 Mustang- 352
1967 Camaro- 350
You forgot the mustang's better heads, intake, and throttle body as well. It has the potential for 9 second runs.

eddie c 12-03-2011 09:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill (Post 296892)
2010 Mustang- 352
1967 Camaro- 350
You forgot the mustang's better heads, intake, and throttle body as well. It has the potential for 9 second runs.

No, I wasn't making light of the situation. I was un sure of the Fords
engine size. I thought it might have been a 4.7 liter motor. I have been out of competition for several years,but there were many similarities
between then and now. Unfortunately the small block Chevy has been
raced and developed over several years,so currently, the Chevy is much closer to its full potential then the Ford.If someone races this Ford
combination next season and gets everything right,hopefully NHRA
will re factor the motor.

Andrew Hill 12-03-2011 11:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eddie c (Post 296898)
No, I wasn't making light of the situation. I was un sure of the Fords
engine size. I thought it might have been a 4.7 liter motor. I have been out of competition for several years,but there were many similarities
between then and now. Unfortunately the small block Chevy has been
raced and developed over several years,so currently, the Chevy is much closer to its full potential then the Ford.If someone races this Ford
combination next season and gets everything right,hopefully NHRA
will re factor the motor.

I meant the last part as an addition to the original post.

eddie c 12-04-2011 11:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill (Post 296937)
I meant the last part as an addition to the original post.

Even if those additional components that you mentioned were just equal to that of the Chevrolet motor, the Ford appears much more than +5 HP
above that of the Chevrolet. Did you ever think that this is NHRA's
way of getting potential new interest in the class and in different cars? For a new guy looking for a car to build in stock class,its a pretty easy choice to make(at this time) which car he should buy and run! ed

Ed Wright 12-04-2011 01:19 PM

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Those specs aren't much more bogus in relation to the initial hp rating than the DPs.
In my business I never screwed my regular customers over to attract new ones.
In two or three years they may be within a couple of classes where they belong. Like many, but not all DPs. Best we can do is in a heads up is try to push them 1+ under. Even if it means pulling 100 lbs out to do it. Don't weigh round losers, do they? Other than 1st round of class. LOL

Tom Turner 12-04-2011 03:10 PM

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Ed;
It's funny, Dallas (Glenn) and I were discussing this very subject yesterday at the shop. Many things came onto the table including the weight removal but the question I have is " does being found significantly light after a heads up race grounds for and extended NHRA vacation?" I told Dallas that with all the weight out and a 100 shot we still cant run with these guys but I really like the idea of becoming a more formidable chaser and letting the system do the rest, so long as that "vacation" isn't in the mix. Not sure what Dallas thought at the end of the day. He's a traditional young guy; wants to kick everybody's katukkas, kiss the girl, grab the little gold man (and the money) and go kick back with a hot dog and a good internet connection. I think he voted for all the weight out, the 100 shot and possibly a 383.


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