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Aubrey N Bruneau 03-11-2012 06:07 PM

ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question !
 
Myself being the single worst racer here, I decided that I better try SOMETING.
Ok, it's time for a 2-step.
Have a 6AL, and now the separate little 2-step module "box".
As I understand it, this is not allowed to be directly activated by a switch on the gear shift, etc.
good.... because as the worst racer here, I don't need one more thing to worry about when I'm watching the tree.
So, activated by the clutch pedal, seems to be the permitted and logical method.
good...
I did what I think is a wonderful job of installing a lever-type aftermarket brake light switch, that is activated by the release fork at the bellhousing. Nice and clean, easily adjusted. Have it set to de-activate when the pedal is about 2" off of the floor.
I like it.
Problem is, I do use the clutch to shift. I do NOT want this to be tied into my newly installed line-lock in any way ( more wiring confusion, more to worry about at the tree, and most importantly... line locks do not release INSTANTLY, which I can see adding to increased and un-due resistance to forward motion from the starting line ).
So, it's been suggested that I go through a switch on 1st gear on my transmission.
trouble is, I'll "tap it' on the 1-2 gear change.
so
my BRILLIANT solution ? ! .... just TOO obvious !
but after reading through some old threads, may be a no-no.
A relay between my clutch switch and 2 step, that delays the activation of the 2-step by a couple seconds ? !
This would allow me to drive to the line, while staging ( clutch pedal depressed ), after a couple seconds, the two step would activate, and set my rev limit on the low side, so I have less to worry about. Immediately upon releasing the clutch pedal, the 2-step would not activate again, unless I held the cluch pedal down for more than a couple seconds.
too easy
probably too good to be true ( acceptable ) ?

No starting line advantage, harder launch, or even any advantage to consistency here.
Just a system to halp give me one less thing to worry about.

Sean Marconette 03-11-2012 11:04 PM

Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question !
 
Install a microswitch on the shifter that only activates LL when shifter is in 1st

Sean

Aubrey N Bruneau 03-11-2012 11:34 PM

Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question !
 
Yes Sean, that's what I mean by onto 1st gear. Again, the trouble is, I do use the clutch on shifts, and that'll tap the low side RPM limit, causing a bit of a stumble... at a very crucial time in the run.

Dinsdale 03-12-2012 12:12 AM

Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question !
 
I went for simple as well. Have a button switch that is activated by the clutch pedal. Set it so when my foot is to the floor the low side is on. Not much chance of me putting the pedal down far enough on a shift to re-activate so I don't worry about it. Ideally, the micro switch for 1st gear only engagement would be the way to go.

Phillip marvetz 03-12-2012 01:51 AM

Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question !
 
I have a digiset timer for my nitrous that is easily adjustable and would do what your thinking. I'm not sure about being legal in a stocker though. I saw something similar on ebay for $10.

Sean Marconette 03-12-2012 08:01 PM

Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question !
 
I did not do a very good job in my first post. Series the switches on the fork in your case and one on the shifter for 1st gear. Both have to be made to engage the LL. Another set of switches on both fork and 1st gear for the 2 step. No relays are allowed. Release of LL and 2 step has to be from drivers foot, and cannot be released using your hands. This is for staging the car. The Burnout, with a stick and LL is a different discussion as 1st gear is not used for the burnout. If the switches are setup in series there should be no way to bounce both switches and re-engage the 2 step.

Hope this Helps.

Sean

Aubrey N Bruneau 03-12-2012 08:46 PM

Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question !
 
thanks guys....
I have to stop trying to "re invent the wheel".
I'll just run it in series from the clutch switch, through the 1st gear switch, to the 2-step. As you said, Dins, with the amount of time that the clutch pedal is activating the switch during a shift, I probably wouldn't notice it ( and it IS only coming out of 1st gear that would be a concern ).

besides, when testing it last night, I baked my super-duper Hella delay relay ! !!

Have I mentioned that I shouldn't be near electricity ?

Bobby Fazio 03-14-2012 09:23 PM

Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question !
 
Aubrey I have the same setup in my stocker and super stocker. I use the MSD8960 relay, powered by the linelock button. You stage the car so your foot is hitting the two step button off and on but nothing is working until you tap the line lock button after you stage. Now the two step button on the pedal has been activated and is now holding the linelock and the two step rev limiter at the same time, when you launch the car your foot comes off the button and the whole circuit opens so you can still hit the clutch on the shifts but the two step rev limiter won't activate because it must first be powered by the linelock button. Find the MSD8960 instructions and you will see how to wire it.

Dinsdale 03-14-2012 09:56 PM

Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 314798)
I have a digiset timer for my nitrous that is easily adjustable and would do what your thinking. I'm not sure about being legal in a stocker though. I saw something similar on ebay for $10.

Same place you got your helmet??

Aubrey N Bruneau 03-14-2012 10:48 PM

Re: ANOTHER 2-Step wiring-in question !
 
That sounds like a real system there, Bobby... thank you for posting.
Again though... it's me and too much to do ( the manual button ).
For sure, I'm a stick shift driver, and good at it. It's the helmet.
I have what I call "helmet head" !
for me,
Helmet goes on,
It's like having no head !


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