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Rob Lloyd 01-07-2013 10:56 AM

Low-HP Short Time?
 
For those of you running a 'Low' HP stocker (I thinking like ~250hp), what kind of short times are you getting? I am now at about 1.7 in the 60' with my new M&H tires, but my car is FWD. So, I'm interested to know how it compares to a RWD 'low' HP stocker. I know the higher HP cars are in the 1.4-1.5 range. But, It's probably not accurate to compare my car to that.

Mike Carr 01-07-2013 12:46 PM

Re: Low-HP Short Time?
 
Rob, my current car (DF/S '92 Olds Toronado, 231 cid. 170/170hp) goes 1.90's in 60' (actually quicker than my old daily driven '95 Camaro LT-1 which had a 1.98 short time on a 13.88 @ 97 mph run). Olds was 1.95 on a 15.01, 89 mph pass at 3,500 pounds. I think the old BF/S turbo Sunbird (110 cid, 150/150 hp) I drove for Billy Nees went low 1.90's running 14.1's in the 1/4 at 2,600 pounds.

GTX JOHN 01-07-2013 06:48 PM

Re: Low-HP Short Time?
 
My boy has a Aspen wagon that run N/O/P. It generally run Mid 1.5s
at O Weight (3650). It has run a Best of 1.498 at N Weight (3540) at
Pomona last year.

Small Valve Low Po 318 @ 230 HP.

ProTrans made a ton of difference with straight cut Very LOW Gear!
NOT inexpensive but it made a huge difference in performance and
worth every penny!!

art leong 01-07-2013 06:57 PM

Re: Low-HP Short Time?
 
Rob my car using the trans brake went mostly low 1.7's in decent air. Using the footbrake I slowed to low to mid 1.8's in good air.
When I put the 22" tires on low 1.9's are about as good as I've gone. Haven't tried them in real good air.
With my car air makes a world of difference in the short times.
The turbo might make up some air difference though.
If I remember correctly I was 1.7's most of the time with the Turbo car.

CJ McDonald 9564 01-07-2013 07:16 PM

Re: Low-HP Short Time?
 
My E/PS 83 Camaro has 1.67's at 3240 lbs. I just got it this past fall and have not had much time to experiment, but I don't think there's much left in it.
C J McDonald

Chris Hill 01-07-2013 09:55 PM

Re: Low-HP Short Time?
 
Best 1.69 running 13.29 in r/sa. 3500 lbs c-10 pickup with 4.3 v6.

Rob Lloyd 01-08-2013 10:50 AM

Re: Low-HP Short Time?
 
Ok, thanks guys. So far it seems like my mid 1.7's are pretty good for a FWD ~180hp car.

I had a few ideas to try and improve that (IE, better struts/shocks, but they're spendy). But, it seems like I probably won't see much improvement there.

art leong 01-08-2013 11:39 AM

Re: Low-HP Short Time?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Lloyd (Post 364376)
Ok, thanks guys. So far it seems like my mid 1.7's are pretty good for a FWD ~180hp car.

I had a few ideas to try and improve that (IE, better struts/shocks, but they're spendy). But, it seems like I probably won't see much improvement there.

Two words. Boost Control . The Mitsubishi spools up quick enough to spin the tires
The M&H's work better but still about 30' out in good air I would spin. If I could have had better boost control I could have gone quicker.
I could hook at the line so I don't think suspension (other than super long wheelie bars) will work.

Rob Lloyd 01-08-2013 02:26 PM

Re: Low-HP Short Time?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by art leong (Post 364381)
Two words. Boost Control . The Mitsubishi spools up quick enough to spin the tires
The M&H's work better but still about 30' out in good air I would spin. If I could have had better boost control I could have gone quicker.
I could hook at the line so I don't think suspension (other than super long wheelie bars) will work.

Boost control is OK right now. I usually get a little rotation off the line, but not too bad.

I was also considering wheeling bars - or more correctly, for a FWD car, wheelbase extenders.


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