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BA1927 10-30-2016 02:11 PM

1969 Roadrunner possible build
 
My nephew has a 1969 Roadrunner 4 speed 383 that he want's to run in Stock Eliminator it has the lift off 6 Pack hood on it now can he keep that on a 383 car even though it was only available on the 1969 440 6 Pack combination - Thank's Bob

Greenlight 10-30-2016 04:28 PM

Re: 1969 Roadrunner possible build
 
No, the trim package (hood, spoilers, etc....) must match the engine HP combination claimed.

For example, a 1969 Camaro was available with a cowl type hood only with some engine combinations. If you run a 350 cid, 2 bbl. engine in a 1969 Camaro, you can't run the cowl induction hood.

D. Hake 4459 10-30-2016 06:44 PM

Re: 1969 Roadrunner possible build
 
It's like Greenlight said. You can't run the 6pack hood with the 383. I currently run the only 383 1969 Roadrunner in NHRA Stock Eliminator in the country. Tough combination. Good luck and have fun. Derek

BA1927 10-30-2016 06:50 PM

Re: 1969 Roadrunner possible build
 
Sorry I am confused if that is true how does an AAR Cuda run a Big Block (Not Available only 340 6 Pack) and compete in A/SA with a 440 I guess I have been racing in the Super Classes to long please explain for me Thank's and excuse my ignorance - Bob

Rory McNeil 10-30-2016 07:13 PM

Re: 1969 Roadrunner possible build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BA1927 (Post 518646)
Sorry I am confused if that is true how does an AAR Cuda run a Big Block (Not Available only 340 6 Pack) and compete in A/SA with a 440 I guess I have been racing in the Super Classes to long please explain for me Thank's and excuse my ignorance - Bob

Simple, it doesn`t . A Cuda running as an AAR can only run the 340 with 3 2 barrel cars. I have seen a few CHALLANGERS with not 340 6 Packs using the fiberglass T/A hood, apparently NHRA was convinced the T/A hood was available on non T/A Challangers. I can`t say that I have ever seen a AAR Cuda hood on a non AAR combination.
Not sure what type of differances there are between 69 & 1970 383 MoPar engines, but Will Kellys 70 383 Cuda runs pretty well in Div. 6.

Rod Greene 10-30-2016 09:23 PM

Re: 1969 Roadrunner possible build
 
Larry Hills Cuda A/SA runs the AAR hood. NHRA allowed that back in the day and even gave the Cuda a best engineered or appearing award. The TA hood has been allowed on Challengers since the days of Paul Rossi SS/FA 440 6 pack. The story was the factory had a shortage of shakers and put the TA hood on some of them.

Steve Stasko 10-31-2016 02:30 AM

Re: 1969 Roadrunner possible build
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod Greene (Post 518669)
Larry Hills Cuda A/SA runs the AAR hood. NHRA allowed that back in the day and even gave the Cuda a best engineered or appearing award. The TA hood has been allowed on Challengers since the days of Paul Rossi SS/FA 440 6 pack. The story was the factory had a shortage of shakers and put the TA hood on some of them.



The T/A scooped hood was an available option on the '70 Challenger. Option code N94. It was available on the 340, 383, 440, and 426 Hemi. The Shaker shortage story arrived from the temporary period where the Shaker production was halted because of the lack of crumple zones in the hood. Crash tests showed the hood would come off and go through the windshield. The known N94 optioned car production dates are nowhere near the Shaker non-production period.


Here's a link to a factory option book showing the T/A Hood availability on other engines: http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/...1970/page3.jpg

Rod Greene 10-31-2016 01:31 PM

Re: 1969 Roadrunner possible build
 
I am glad that NHRA accepts both these hoods but your brochure also states shaker available for 440 4bbl and would be painted black on all but red cars. Obviously some erroneous information.
Ok I have done some more research and have seen fender tag pics of non Ta Challengers with N94 hoods.

stocker396 11-01-2016 12:48 AM

Re: 1969 Roadrunner possible build
 
That hood may have been "available" but NEVER built that way. Kinda like a 340 6 pack was "available" in 1971 BUT NEVER EVER Built! Larry's hood is a bogus deal. So is the fiberglass hood on anything BUT a 340 6pack. AND the reason for the shaker replacement wasnt "crumplezones" It was because they filled up with water when it rained. Dealers swapped them off under warranty! NEVER did Mother mopar put the fiberglass on anything else. Its like saying a Mr Norms 340 6pack in a dart is legal! I think since all the camaros gotta run flat hoods Larry and the others should have Steel on theirs! But Hey Put the Lift off on your car and cite Larry as the example! They gotta let you have it, Right????

SStockDart 11-01-2016 02:31 AM

Re: 1969 Roadrunner possible build
 
I don't know how this thread got from a 1969 Roadrunner hood to a 1970 Cuda hood, but the answer to the original question is....no, you can not use a 6bbl hood on a 383 car. You could use the scoop hood in Super stock GT with the 383. BTW, my 69 Roadrunner was an original 383, I bought it new when I got out of the Army and still have it.


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