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Mike Savelle 11-23-2017 09:32 AM

stocker gas line
 
Is a 3/8 line from pump to Qjet big enough , if so what size should the return line be ?

rboyle 11-23-2017 10:10 AM

Re: stocker gas line
 
I ran -12an from the tank to the pump and -10 an from pump to regulator then -8 an to the carb, -10 an return from the pump to the tank for my qjet

Dave Turner 11-23-2017 12:13 PM

Re: stocker gas line
 
IMO Mike, 3/8" is too small to feed one of your fuel hungry SBC's. :D

I was going to suggest -10AN to the regulator, -8 to the carb and -8 return.

Coleydog 11-23-2017 02:40 PM

Re: stocker gas line
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Turner (Post 550263)
IMO Mike, 3/8" is too small to feed one of your fuel hungry SBC's. :D

I was going to suggest -10AN to the regulator, -8 to the carb and -8 return.

Better have a big pump with that size line.
Mike

Dave Turner 11-23-2017 03:12 PM

Re: stocker gas line
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleydog (Post 550278)
Better have a big pump with that size line.
Mike

I do....Aeromotive A1000

Mike Savelle 11-23-2017 06:58 PM

Re: stocker gas line
 
Dave I checked your engine specs and understand why you need that much fuel! I got 390/410 lift 1.94/1.50 valves with a Qjet, and run the same class as you. I was told it cost 2-3 times as much to run a Ford .WOW. I priced the a1000, $550 cdn with tax another WOW. I just retired and we are on a budget ha ha .See you next year, and thanks for the input . Mike

GTX JOHN 11-23-2017 07:35 PM

Re: stocker gas line
 
Our small block stockers run 3/8 hard line and Mallory 140 pumps....Never lose pressure.

Our super stocks run 1/2 hard line and Aeromotive pumps.

Of Course our Thermoquad Bowls are BIG and hold a lot of gas.

Ed Wright 11-23-2017 11:37 PM

Re: stocker gas line
 
Just curious, wondering (surely this has been tested) about the flow rate difference through a given size needle & seat assy (say a .125" or .150" dia orfice in the seat) with various i.d. fuel hoses, all much larger I.d. than the orfice in the needle & seat? A Quadrajet only has one, with a small float bowel for all four jets. I'm guessing the most difficult carb to keep full enough? Kinda seems like if the fuel line/hose I.d. was larger than that one orfice, a larger line would not help. Pretty interesting, thinking how a much larger line would alter the flow rate through the seat orfice.

GTX JOHN 11-24-2017 05:34 AM

Re: stocker gas line
 
Two .110 Needles and Seats on Thermoquad.

Some year ago they shut us off on line for clean up down track.
I forgot to turn fuel pump back on....Staged and ran past 1/8 mile
before I ran out of fuel.

Tom Broome 11-24-2017 09:28 AM

Re: stocker gas line
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 550299)
Just curious, wondering (surely this has been tested) about the flow rate difference through a given size needle & seat assy (say a .125" or .150" dia orfice in the seat) with various i.d. fuel hoses, all much larger I.d. than the orfice in the needle & seat? A Quadrajet only has one, with a small float bowel for all four jets. I'm guessing the most difficult carb to keep full enough? Kinda seems like if the fuel line/hose I.d. was larger than that one orfice, a larger line would not help. Pretty interesting, thinking how a much larger line would alter the flow rate through the seat orfice.

I worked for an aftermarket manufacturer once upon a time and we did test some different configurations using an orifice attached to a flow meter.
We were attempting to qualify the differences between needle and seat area and fuel pressure with respect to fuel volume. We also tested differing configurations before and after the secondary regulator. It's been so long ago now that I don't recall the specifics of that test, but I do remember a fondness for bypass style systems. It seemed that the less total area that you flowed through needed a bypass to keep the secondary regulator functioning.
If the fuel system was primarily laminar flow like fuel injection, fuel line area and orifice area can be closer than a carbureted system. Since a carburetor is essentially a siphoning device, fuel flow through the boosters and calibration are affected by the level of fuel available in the bowl(s). When the needle(s) open the bowl needs to be refilled as rapidly and smoothly as possible.
If your using alcohol with a carburetor the pump essentially overcomes the regulators ability to control pressure at some engine RPM. The needle and seats are the restrictions but volume is increased with the excess pressure.


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