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Tim H 10-04-2018 02:16 PM

NHRA amended rollbar / cage rule
 
Has anyone else read about this yet ? A local track posted this

After years of urging by many small race tracks including ours, NHRA will change some major safety rules to keep in stride with todays modern day muscle car. The current rule calls for a roll bar in any car going 13.99 or quicker, as of next year that will be changed and changed in a big way.
"Recognizing the safety-inspired design and construction of today’s late model vehicles, the NHRA has actually rescinded its previous guidelines for street vehicles running 9.99 to 11.49 that required the use of a roll cage or roll bar, now permitting unaltered, 2008 and later model hard top vehicles to compete as they come from the factory without the addition of said roll bar/cage. The amendment, as its phrased in the NHRA’s 2012 to 2013 amendment document".
These racers who previously had to slow their vehicles down or not show up at a track at all are now able to compete without the modifying their expensive factory cars, and regardless of who this new rule applies to and who it doesn’t, it certainly opens some racers up to visit a race track again. This does not apply to convertibles and cars that are older than 2008, please keep that in mind, but does affect many of the street cars that compete

X-TECH MAN 10-04-2018 02:33 PM

Re: NHRA amended rollbar / cage rule
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim H (Post 574269)
Has anyone else read about this yet ? A local track posted this

After years of urging by many small race tracks including ours, NHRA will change some major safety rules to keep in stride with todays modern day muscle car. The current rule calls for a roll bar in any car going 13.99 or quicker, as of next year that will be changed and changed in a big way.
"Recognizing the safety-inspired design and construction of today’s late model vehicles, the NHRA has actually rescinded its previous guidelines for street vehicles running 9.99 to 11.49 that required the use of a roll cage or roll bar, now permitting unaltered, 2008 and later model hard top vehicles to compete as they come from the factory without the addition of said roll bar/cage. The amendment, as its phrased in the NHRA’s 2012 to 2013 amendment document".
These racers who previously had to slow their vehicles down or not show up at a track at all are now able to compete without the modifying their expensive factory cars, and regardless of who this new rule applies to and who it doesn’t, it certainly opens some racers up to visit a race track again. This does not apply to convertibles and cars that are older than 2008, please keep that in mind, but does affect many of the street cars that compete

You did NOT need a roll bar in a hard top auto unless you went 11.49 and quicker. Rag tops needed a roll bar at 13.49 and quicker. This has been the rule for a long time. At least 9 or 10 years. A certified cage is not needed unless you went faster than 10.00. Some cars were required roll bars and cages if the floor and firewall was modified or replaced with alum.

Tim H 10-04-2018 02:40 PM

Re: NHRA amended rollbar / cage rule
 
So someone can show up with any 2008 and up Mustang/Challenger/ Camaro and go 9.99 with no bar ?

Chipper Chapman 10-04-2018 03:06 PM

Re: NHRA amended rollbar / cage rule
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim H (Post 574271)
So someone can show up with any 2008 and up Mustang/Challenger/ Camaro and go 9.99 with no bar ?

No, but they can go 10.000

ALMACK 10-04-2018 03:39 PM

Re: NHRA amended rollbar / cage rule
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chipper Chapman (Post 574274)
No, but they can go 10.000

^^ that is the way I read it.

It used to be 2008 and newer (unaltrered) vehicles did not need a roll bar if running 10.00-11.49 at a "Street Legal" NHRA event.
It appears that that new amendment applies to any NHRA track bracket race or TnT program.

The new amendment just deleted the word "unaltered" from the 2008 and newer vehicle line.

Note the line about tires...must be DOT labeled tires

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nhramnl 10-04-2018 03:51 PM

Re: NHRA amended rollbar / cage rule
 
Another enhancement by the NPTTOEAMHRA (National Pandering To The Original Equipment Automobile Manufacturers Hot Rod Association).


Coming soon for any 2008 and newer car: 1) Competing with the wheel covers on (because wheel covers stay on much better than they used to); 2) Competing with the windows down (because new cars never roll over; if they did, they'd need a roll bar); 3) Competing with your wife and kids in the car (because new cars are completely safe and the wife wants to see what the big deal is); 3) Letting your dog drive (because animals deserve a shot at the American Dream); 4) Burnouts across the starting line (because it's elitist and non-inclusive to only let the big shots do it); 5) Crew members holding the car during the burnout (because everyone should have a chance to be involved and get a participation trophy); 6) Nitrous Oxide bottles, secured with zip ties (because the only way to stop cheating is to sanction it, AND, zip ties so the bottle can be removed, at the end of the race; 7) Delay boxes (because it will make for "a better racing experience"; 8) Engine displacement whatever the owner/driver claims (because Tech is a hassle).

X-TECH MAN 10-04-2018 03:55 PM

Re: NHRA amended rollbar / cage rule
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim H (Post 574271)
So someone can show up with any 2008 and up Mustang/Challenger/ Camaro and go 9.99 with no bar ?

Who in their right mind would want to go that quick without a roll bar or cage ? Not me that's for sure.

Tex013 10-04-2018 05:35 PM

Re: NHRA amended rollbar / cage rule
 
been like that here in Australia for the last 3-4 years . No safety clothing required either , no sfi jacket / pants etc .
A number now racing , as fast as 140MPH+ with power adders . Most run our Super Street , 10.00 - 12.99 . Stupid thing is parachute @ 140

With pre 2008 at least with ANDRA under 11.00 requires at least a rollbar and tech + sfi clothing . Under IHRA no bar till 10.49 safety clothing ?

Tex

Tim H 10-04-2018 05:41 PM

Re: NHRA amended rollbar / cage rule
 
NHRA "Dedicated to $afety."

X-TECH MAN 10-04-2018 05:48 PM

Re: NHRA amended rollbar / cage rule
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nhramnl (Post 574276)
Another enhancement by the NPTTOEAMHRA (National Pandering To The Original Equipment Automobile Manufacturers Hot Rod Association).


Coming soon for any 2008 and newer car: 1) Competing with the wheel covers on (because wheel covers stay on much better than they used to); 2) Competing with the windows down (because new cars never roll over; if they did, they'd need a roll bar); 3) Competing with your wife and kids in the car (because new cars are completely safe and the wife wants to see what the big deal is); 3) Letting your dog drive (because animals deserve a shot at the American Dream); 4) Burnouts across the starting line (because it's elitist and non-inclusive to only let the big shots do it); 5) Crew members holding the car during the burnout (because everyone should have a chance to be involved and get a participation trophy); 6) Nitrous Oxide bottles, secured with zip ties (because the only way to stop cheating is to sanction it, AND, zip ties so the bottle can be removed, at the end of the race; 7) Delay boxes (because it will make for "a better racing experience"; 8) Engine displacement whatever the owner/driver claims (because Tech is a hassle).

LOL.....# 8 Sounds like NHRA tech these days.


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