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pfordamx 04-06-2019 11:59 PM

Car surging? possible bad ignition box or coil?
 
Took our amx to the track for the first time this year with a new engine but same electronics that were working good last October including distributer and ignition box which is 7al2 and a hvh pro power coil. also same plug wires and were used and the same carburetor from last season. the car fired up and showed no signs of issues in the garage it started well and free revved just fine, so we get to the track we unload drove to tech went smooth, and being a new engine i decided to drive up the return road and see if it felt ok and with a little throttle input and load the car stumbled then spring up and stumbled bouncing the rpm from almost dead to 4000rpm so i turned around and drove back to the pits and after changing the cap rotor sparkplugs, jets , pulling the 2 step chips moving timing unplugging the crank trigger and going back to the distributor ressetting up the carb, we could not make it better. we tried to make to passes and you could ease into it and it would feel ok but fast throttle movement or to aggressive and it would stumble and start bucking again. we have a second 7al2 that were installing tomorrow to check that but i'm open to any and all suggestions.

Adger Smith 04-07-2019 02:25 AM

Re: Car surging? possible bad ignition box or coil?
 
Un hook your tachometer

gmonde 04-07-2019 08:43 AM

Re: Car surging? possible bad ignition box or coil?
 
check the fuel,,,race fuel normally will be good for a while but you never know ,
check the voltage going to the 7A box ,,
check alternator voltage

pfordamx 04-07-2019 08:43 AM

Re: Car surging? possible bad ignition box or coil?
 
i forgot to list that but we did try unplugging the tach and it still started bucking i guess you could call it.

pfordamx 04-07-2019 08:47 AM

Re: Car surging? possible bad ignition box or coil?
 
i was curious about fuel thats one thing we did change. the car is on e85 and we always ran pump e that we mixed in the past and we swapped to a premixed with race gas e that we bought in 55 gallon drum i believe its renegade i tested it and it was 88 percent witch is fine. i didn't check check voltage at the box i'll do that today the car is on a 16 volt system and the in car volt meter was reading close to 17. oh and no alternator we just charge inbetween rounds.

gmonde 04-07-2019 09:02 AM

Re: Car surging? possible bad ignition box or coil?
 
you might want to investigate further on your fuel and compression of the motor ,,

MikeMoller 04-07-2019 08:31 PM

Re: Car surging? possible bad ignition box or coil?
 
Could be fuel pressure, needle and seat, float issue, or fuel filter.

gmonde 04-07-2019 08:37 PM

Re: Car surging? possible bad ignition box or coil?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeMoller (Post 586444)
Could be fuel pressure, needle and seat, float issue, or fuel filter.

I am thinking more on the fuel not supporting the compression of the motor ,, I ran aircraft fuel in my bracket car and it did the same thing described ,, except my motor was low compression and the oxetane was way to high and the motor stumbled at the hit ,,

pfordamx 04-08-2019 09:34 AM

Re: Car surging? possible bad ignition box or coil?
 
The motor is 14.5 to 1 what are you suggesting by not supporting i was thinking maybe too much octane and its not able to light it underload.

RKelliher 04-08-2019 12:31 PM

Re: Car surging? possible bad ignition box or coil?
 
Did you make sure the engine is grounded,since the motor was just put in. Also why are you running a e-85 mix ?.try running racing gas only. But I have seen problems with grounds.


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