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John DiBartolomeo 12-03-2019 10:59 PM

Locking 'Em Up
 
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We’ve all heard of the stories; cars smoking the tires at the finish line, cars getting out of control, and in some cases racers being disqualified for hitting the brakes too hard.

https://dragracingedge.com/the-blog/locking-em-up/

Bob Don 12-03-2019 11:09 PM

Re: Locking 'Em Up
 
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Reminds me of this:

Dave Noll 12-04-2019 02:37 AM

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And me of this old famous one


http://https://www.facebook.com/drag...u&__tn__=EHH-R

Jon Sarrett 12-04-2019 08:19 AM

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The last time I locked them up I was quickly introduced to the guard wall. Don't do it folks. Not only do you put yourself in danger but you also endanger the guy in the other lane.

Ed Wright 12-04-2019 09:32 AM

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Easier to get in trouble for that, than you might think. I got my butt chewed out for smoking my tires at the stripe, when I was pretty certain I had not stepped on the pedal hard enough to lock them up. Talking about that in the staging lanes later, another racer told me “You do it all the time!” I had no idea.

Carguy49 12-04-2019 11:37 AM

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Be thankful that no one has ever died because of this. At least I don't think that has ever happened and hope that it NEVER does.

Jack McCarthy 12-04-2019 12:20 PM

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as scooter pecos (ihra race director at the time) so eloquently explained to me after i said oh no sir my tires hit the fenderwell headers i wasnt skidding ... " that was 6mph less than previous run and i dont care if your rings go away if i see smoke again youre DQ"

summed it right up

Dave Gantz 12-04-2019 12:27 PM

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I'm guessing a proportioning valve, with bias to the rear brakes has been tried?

I had a car that had factory front discs, and should've had 10" rear drums, but it had 11". It would lock the rears wheels when it had street tires on it, but stopped nicely when the slicks were on it.

Of course, the fronts usually do most of the work, but in this case, the rears did and the slicks made it work.

Eric Merryfield 12-04-2019 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack McCarthy (Post 603191)
as scooter pecos (ihra race director at the time) so eloquently explained to me after i said oh no sir my tires hit the fenderwell headers i wasnt skidding ... " that was 6mph less than previous run and i dont care if your rings go away if i see smoke again youre DQ"

summed it right up

Likely the best way is using the data, in addition to the eyeball test for smoke, getting out of shape, etc.

I always thought the MPH on the slip was the average MPH over the last 66 feet,

so wouldn't take a lot of effort to add a sensor to just have the slip print out the 1254 speed and time and the 1320 speed and time.......flagrant unsafe run would jump out.

also would be a good tool for micro-tuning the converter, rear gear, tranny fluid, etc.

Eric

Ed Wright 12-04-2019 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Gantz (Post 603194)
I'm guessing a proportioning valve, with bias to the rear brakes has been tried?

I had a car that had factory front discs, and should've had 10" rear drums, but it had 11". It would lock the rears wheels when it had street tires on it, but stopped nicely when the slicks were on it.

Of course, the fronts usually do most of the work, but in this case, the rears did and the slicks made it work.

I put one on mine. An adjustable one. Several years ago. Fronts don’t slide so easily now.


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