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Mark Yacavone 09-07-2022 11:30 PM

AHFS Foibles
 
I'm not an expert on this subject so I'll need a few outside opinions.
Recently my good friend Lead Foot Eddie gave the 87 El Camino a big wallop with 11 hp.
I've been told that the Elky is considered a truck, and therefore can use a .430 lift cam.
I've also been told there was no teardown.
Now, upon examining the new NHRA rating, I see that the 2 dr. Monte also got the 11 hp hit.
Two problems I see here..
First, the 2 dr car has to use a .357 /.390 lift cam.
Second, it's a bit of a different platform, at it's 108 in. wheelbase.
The "truck" is 117.1
I contend that the 2dr. shouldn't have gotten the hit at all.
No, I'm not building one, but I hate to see two good combos whacked, when it should be only one.
Those who are still awake here after all of this,, what say you?

J.R. Haddad 09-07-2022 11:36 PM

Re: AHFS Foibles
 
Mark, the 2 different camshafts seals the deal, it's two different combinations. It is indefensible, and NHRA must adjust the Monte Carlo
back to what it was. Perhaps an oversight, perhaps not. It must be undone.

J.R.

Billy Nees 09-08-2022 07:56 AM

Re: AHFS Foibles
 
You are correct about the wheelbase difference and the Monte Carlo shouldn't get a hit.
There are no 1987 Chevrolet Trucks listed in the classification guide. The ElCamino is and has always been classified as a car.

Larry Hill 09-08-2022 09:09 AM

Re: AHFS Foibles
 
The 1987 class guide list the the ElCamino as a pickup. So is the word truck understood? The wheel base difference of 9.1” should make it a different platform. The camshaft deal like JR pointed out is enough to fix the car part.

Billy Nees 09-08-2022 09:16 AM

Re: AHFS Foibles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 667064)
So is the word truck understood? The wheel base difference of 9.1” should make it a different platform.

The word "Truck" is very specific in the "Engine Blueprint Specs.".

Billy Nees 09-08-2022 09:19 AM

Re: AHFS Foibles
 
Ya know Larry, you've been around for long enough to know what happens when you assume that something is understood when dealing with the NHRA. ;-)

Bob Shaw 09-08-2022 09:46 AM

Re: AHFS Foibles
 
I talked to Pat C. at NHRA on 8/29/22 . He agreed that only the 1987 El camino (truck). should be refactored. Eddiie's engine was torn down. No problem.

garyc 09-08-2022 10:09 AM

Re: AHFS Foibles
 
i was pitted with eddy at epping, he had to borrow some tools for tech teardown, nhra measured throttle body diameter and made him pull valve cover. not sure what they looked for in valve-train

Mark Yacavone 09-08-2022 11:33 AM

Re: AHFS Foibles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Shaw (Post 667072)
I talked to Pat C. at NHRA on 8/29/22 . He agreed that only the 1987 El camino (truck). should be refactored. Eddiie's engine was torn down. No problem.

Bob, I should have just called you. I knew you'd be on top of this.
Apologies if there was a full teardown..No doubt it would have passed one.

Billy is correct. The El Camino was always in the guide...before there were truck classes.

Some of you might remember the Jr. Stock Hydramatic sedan delivery "truck" deal.
It was legal until one day, it wasn't ;-)

Billy Nees 09-08-2022 01:00 PM

Re: AHFS Foibles
 
If El Caminos are trucks then who is going to explain to Dennis Paz that his SS/NA El Camino is no longer legal? Trucks can't and never could run in regular SS classes.


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