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rboyle 04-24-2023 07:46 PM

Why are Opens random pairings?
 
I don't understand why National Opens where there is no AHFS are random pairing first round with no heads up match ups possible. I mean it's contradictory. You can consider it one of the only races where performance can run free and wild but for what benefit? Aside from setting records

Jack Matyas 04-24-2023 07:55 PM

Re: Why are Opens random pairings?
 
Years ago our Division Director didn't want his crew working hard so he made first round random .Also because it was random he didn't want guys ( or gals) chasing people around to get them heads-up. With a ladder this would become harder to do but it probably won't ever change .

Brett C 04-24-2023 08:10 PM

Re: Why are Opens random pairings?
 
We ran the D2 National Open in Reynolds, GA yesterday and all classes except .90 classes were qualified and then laddered.

The Hawk 04-24-2023 08:22 PM

Re: Why are Opens random pairings?
 
Must be what Division you're in. Laddered here in D5.

Mike Fuller 04-24-2023 09:24 PM

Re: Why are Opens random pairings?
 
In division three there are no heads-up races in the first round at opens. One the tech official stands just before you leave the staging area to make sure that will not happen. The ladder is set after that based on how far under the index you go.

Lyn Smith 04-24-2023 09:46 PM

Re: Why are Opens random pairings?
 
I have noticed at our Fall Classic National open here in Div. 3 that many cars are entered for the grading point and leave after entering. Especially if the weather is a little sketchy for Sunday. It also is so much faster for the tech guys to do the random paring. I have never heard any racers complain about it.

Brent Kopejtka 04-24-2023 10:17 PM

Re: Why are Opens random pairings?
 
I know in D5 it’s always laddered, otherwise might as well go run pro et.

Lyn Smith 04-24-2023 11:44 PM

Re: Why are Opens random pairings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent Kopejtka (Post 679491)
I know in D5 it’s always laddered, otherwise might as well go run pro et.

Brent just wondering when was the last time one of your front wheel drive cars had a heads up run. LOL .The reason they have all run first rounds at National opens in div.3 is to save time by not giving 10 cars bye runs. And by the way when Pro et is run at a National open it pays way more ( and less of an entry fee) than Stock and SS. Go figure.

rboyle 04-25-2023 05:20 AM

Re: Why are Opens random pairings?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack Matyas (Post 679476)
Years ago our Division Director didn't want his crew working hard so he made first round random .Also because it was random he didn't want guys ( or gals) chasing people around to get them heads-up. With a ladder this would become harder to do but it probably won't ever change .

Thanks Jack. But it seems like a laziness excuse for DD from back then. Since when is what we do easy? I'm now insulted that this was the reason. We work hard spend tons of time and money to go fast then hit the TnT day at an open and run hard in Q1 & Q2 just to have first round be run like Wednesday night street race at your local track?

Dave Casey 04-25-2023 08:31 AM

Re: Why are Opens random pairings?
 
In D1 there would be tons of bye runs, we have a lot of cars and many come to see how fast they can go or to set a record or to get a grade point. Often after that they skip the eliminator. Personally I like it, gives the crew a break which they deserve and gets the eliminator done earlier.


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