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MPR · 01-25-2009, 12:40 PM

Len is correct, the American Muscle class concept was proposed to the NHRA as a place to showcase the new Camaro, Mustang and Challenger using current production power plants. This class was however intended for Super Stock not Stock. The push from the big 3 for such a class had died off a bit since GM racing has cancelled its Stock/Super Stock 09 Camaro program and Fred Simmonds has retired.
I still just don’t see why the NHRA would create a special class in Stock for the Mustang when they fit naturally into A/S & AA/S. The 425 HP Modular Ford motor is 330 cu. in. and that’s a far cry from the 427s it may be racing against. It has been classified by the NHRA and they also see no reason to add a special class because they are Stock. These are not paper or pencil cars as you can plainly see in George Wrights earlier post. Until this combination show a clear cut superiority at the races (not hear say or rumors) I think the case is closed.
I race a GT/EA Grand Am with an injected motor. There are still guys complaining about having to race against injection. The US car manufactures have been using injection exclusively for more than 2 decades. Might just make more sense to separate the 40 year old cars from the new cars by the racers that don’t think they can compete with the new. Nostalgia? What made Stock so cool in the 60s were new Stockers of all brands racing against each other. I don’t remember ever seeing any 40 year old stocker in the 60s at any National Events.
I wonder why anyone would edit their thread. Last night after I got home from Varsity Fords Cobra Jet delivery gathering I read a post indicting Ford has given these Cobra Jets to selected racers for free. I posted :
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FREE??? Someones handing you a line of s***. a CJ Mustang is 70K and no one got anything for free!

Why did the post I was responding to get edited? Just a couple of post earlier the FREE word was being used and now it’s gone! This thread has lost all its credibility and I think I’ll just read it for the pure entertainment value as it is pretty much a joke and filled with untruths. If you are 100% sure the new Mustang is going to kick your butt then keep posting BS like you have. I guess whenever the Challenger shows up the same guys will be at it again. I wonder if a thread to get rid of the whiners would be cool, on second thought it would most likely get edited as well.
Well I’m done trying to post the facts; I’ll just read and have fun doing it. It was great to see Len Imbrogno is still reading this stuff, Len, give me a call sometime and we can get caught up! In the mean time you can keep in mind one of the signs of getting old is the reluctance to accept the new. Do you still listen to 60s music? I do but it’s oldies just like the cars you think your fighting for. Time to face it, it’s 2009!

01-25-2009, 12:40 PM	#443
MPR Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 48 Likes: 0 Liked 23 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Factory experimental Len is correct, the American Muscle class concept was proposed to the NHRA as a place to showcase the new Camaro, Mustang and Challenger using current production power plants. This class was however intended for Super Stock not Stock. The push from the big 3 for such a class had died off a bit since GM racing has cancelled its Stock/Super Stock 09 Camaro program and Fred Simmonds has retired. I still just don’t see why the NHRA would create a special class in Stock for the Mustang when they fit naturally into A/S & AA/S. The 425 HP Modular Ford motor is 330 cu. in. and that’s a far cry from the 427s it may be racing against. It has been classified by the NHRA and they also see no reason to add a special class because they are Stock. These are not paper or pencil cars as you can plainly see in George Wrights earlier post. Until this combination show a clear cut superiority at the races (not hear say or rumors) I think the case is closed. I race a GT/EA Grand Am with an injected motor. There are still guys complaining about having to race against injection. The US car manufactures have been using injection exclusively for more than 2 decades. Might just make more sense to separate the 40 year old cars from the new cars by the racers that don’t think they can compete with the new. Nostalgia? What made Stock so cool in the 60s were new Stockers of all brands racing against each other. I don’t remember ever seeing any 40 year old stocker in the 60s at any National Events. I wonder why anyone would edit their thread. Last night after I got home from Varsity Fords Cobra Jet delivery gathering I read a post indicting Ford has given these Cobra Jets to selected racers for free. I posted : ________________________________________ FREE??? Someones handing you a line of s***. a CJ Mustang is 70K and no one got anything for free! Why did the post I was responding to get edited? Just a couple of post earlier the FREE word was being used and now it’s gone! This thread has lost all its credibility and I think I’ll just read it for the pure entertainment value as it is pretty much a joke and filled with untruths. If you are 100% sure the new Mustang is going to kick your butt then keep posting BS like you have. I guess whenever the Challenger shows up the same guys will be at it again. I wonder if a thread to get rid of the whiners would be cool, on second thought it would most likely get edited as well. Well I’m done trying to post the facts; I’ll just read and have fun doing it. It was great to see Len Imbrogno is still reading this stuff, Len, give me a call sometime and we can get caught up! In the mean time you can keep in mind one of the signs of getting old is the reluctance to accept the new. Do you still listen to 60s music? I do but it’s oldies just like the cars you think your fighting for. Time to face it, it’s 2009!