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bill dedman · 11-10-2009, 10:52 PM

Alan,

This situation cannot be saddled with a thousand and one OTHER inequities that exist in handicap racing, in an effort to "level the playing" field, because there is no way to quantify the effects of "leaving on a clean tree", or "driving the stripe from behind." You know there are many, many ways in which a faster car has an advantage over a slow car, and vice-versa. You cannot justify legislating advantages for either group, in an effort to "level the playing field."

This worse red light situation cannot be viewed as an effort to do that, because of the crazy-quilt that is Eliminator racing. By that I mean, it changes, every time you're up to bat, depending on what class of car you're racing.

You run an F car with your G car (your dial-in will almost always be slower) you are the victim; if you red light... he never is under "red light jeopardy."

You run an H car with your G car (your dial-in will almost always be faster) HE is the victim if HE red lights, never putting YOU in the jeopardy of a red light.

Giving the quicker car (second to leave) a free ride, if the first car red lights, is a benefit to anyone, ONLY when they are the second to leave, and the other car red lights.

The only place this becomes a significant inequity, it could be argued, is when a car is classed either very high, or very low in the hierarchy of the classes.

For example, you don't need a statistical analysis to conclude that Ellis Buth's W/SA wagon is on the wrong end of this system (virtually, always leaving first), or that the new, 9-second Mustangs are on the "right" end of it.

The Mustangs enjoy an immunity from red lights IF their opponent bulbs.
Ellis's Pinto NEVER enjoys such an advantage.

I asked, "Where is the other side of that coin" relative to the fact that the quicker car sometimes enjoys this advantage, but there is none.

THAT is an "inexcusable inequity," in my book, because it is unnecessary, now, and accomplishes nothing.

Can you show me the other side of that coin?

Thanks for your input; I enjoy discussing things with you.

11-10-2009, 10:52 PM	#35
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: questions concerning christmas tree Alan, This situation cannot be saddled with a thousand and one OTHER inequities that exist in handicap racing, in an effort to "level the playing" field, because there is no way to quantify the effects of "leaving on a clean tree", or "driving the stripe from behind." You know there are many, many ways in which a faster car has an advantage over a slow car, and vice-versa. You cannot justify legislating advantages for either group, in an effort to "level the playing field." This worse red light situation cannot be viewed as an effort to do that, because of the crazy-quilt that is Eliminator racing. By that I mean, it changes, every time you're up to bat, depending on what class of car you're racing. You run an F car with your G car (your dial-in will almost always be slower) you are the victim; if you red light... he never is under "red light jeopardy." You run an H car with your G car (your dial-in will almost always be faster) HE is the victim if HE red lights, never putting YOU in the jeopardy of a red light. Giving the quicker car (second to leave) a free ride, if the first car red lights, is a benefit to anyone, ONLY when they are the second to leave, and the other car red lights. The only place this becomes a significant inequity, it could be argued, is when a car is classed either very high, or very low in the hierarchy of the classes. For example, you don't need a statistical analysis to conclude that Ellis Buth's W/SA wagon is on the wrong end of this system (virtually, always leaving first), or that the new, 9-second Mustangs are on the "right" end of it. The Mustangs enjoy an immunity from red lights IF their opponent bulbs. Ellis's Pinto NEVER enjoys such an advantage. I asked, "Where is the other side of that coin" relative to the fact that the quicker car sometimes enjoys this advantage, but there is none. THAT is an "inexcusable inequity," in my book, because it is unnecessary, now, and accomplishes nothing. Can you show me the other side of that coin? Thanks for your input; I enjoy discussing things with you. __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 11-10-2009 at 11:46 PM.