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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

There were over 1200 COPO L-72 Camaros built, 69 ZL-1 Camaros, plenty of L-88 Corvettes, around 500 or so L-72 69 Chevelles, and the list goes on. All real street legal cars sold at the dealership. Not only that, only the ZL-1 Camaro had a really high price tag.

No argument here. But, each of the cars that you have mentioned was built with Stock Eliminator in mind. They also conformed to the rules of the day. History tells that there was a lot more interest in Stock back then. Almost every local track ran trophy races for Stock.

If these cross breed crate motor combinations are legal, then why isn't a 67 Corvette L-88 legal? After all, they built and sold 36 of them. Who knows how many were given away.

The way that the Challenger/Mustang combos are being introduced I don't see why they couldn't allow the L-88. It wouldn't bother me one bit.

If the Roush cars are legal, why aren't all the Yenko cars, or all of the Baldwin/Motion cars?

I think that Roush has actually done all the work that the Feds require to make those cars legal just like SLP did with the Firehawks. Why can't you run an L72 Yenko? The Motion cars were pretty much built to order cars, so I can't see how they can be part of this conversation.

It's suddenly all fine and dandy to put just about anything in Stock Eliminator, regardless of whether or not it was even remotely intended for street use, or even produced at the factory. There used to be a rule about "export cars", "tuner cars" and all of that. Rules intended specifically to keep ringers with bogus factors out of Stock. But now it is evidently okay to put anything in Stock, regardless of it ever being actually produced or available in the showroom at all. And you can evidently name your own factor as well.

I really can't agree with this statement. The new factory cars are being built to fit the "current" NHRA rules. Just like all those cars that you mentioned earlier. In 1969 you could drive your car out of the dealer lot, do minimal work, and be competetive at local events. That is not the case today. I am glad that these cars take a lot of waste out of buying/building a new Stocker.

The idea that all of this is absolutely no different than 98 F bodies with 97 LT-1 engines is the biggest bunch of BS I've seen. In fact, evidently the 97 and 98 carry the same HP factor and the same curb weight. So, in effect, they're only different in appearance.

My understanding on this one is that it was entirely a marketing deal for GM. I have two of these cars. I have upgraded the front end on both cars, because I can. But, I really don't know why the NHRA allowed it. Nothing would be gained by fixing this.

But somehow they are as outrageously bogus as a car that has 650HP at the rear wheels in stock form being factored at 425 HP. Yeah, right.

I have said in the past that I question the power plant choices allowed. But if this is the direction that Stock is going, I will be following it. It would be a shame to miss being a part of the biggest factory involvement in 40 years.