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Old 01-20-2010, 10:02 AM   #22
Chris "drooze" Wertman
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Default Re: Sponsorship Advice

[QUOTE=Hagen Gary;163907]

Enough of this post whoreing. I've been visiting this forum and at this class racing thing 20 times longer than you (and I'm one of the younger ones)but don't know ***** about class racing. My advice, Keep your mouth shut (that includes your keyboard) and find someone who knows what they are doing and can stand you, then learn from them.

Its not about post whoring, it was a simple question, HOW and WHAT is the best way to deal with the ink for #2 knowing they want the car to themselves NOW ? But I cant do that, soooo.....

Trying to leverage the POTENTIAL is what I was looking for as well as "Term" of Agreement which we dont have .

Ill agree 100% I dont know **** about class racing, BUT , I kept my mouth shut for a while and didnt see anyone else asking the SPECIFIC Questions, Trans Cooler, and a ton of other items I have ASKED, I GET the answers I am looking for , its a pain for me to weed through the Chaff thrown here as well, I would preffer to have only answers posted and not have the threads take the directions they do, it makes it difficult to find the sincere answers. But many have taken to PMing them to me which I appreciate.

I have made more solid contact here IN THE CLASS RACING COMMUNITY, than I ever could have elsewhere....simple. So explain to me why I should stop doing something that is working for me simply because you would rather I dont ?!?!

I will take any good honest advice you have to offer, but Im not much one for "The Establishment" of anything, 9 times out of 10 they are there still trying to succeed and if someone comes along who thinks they can, they will be the first to tell you it cant be done the way that I am trying, Ive found that "It cant be done" only means the other party Dosent know how to do it themselves.

Am I supposed to bow in reverence because you have ". I've been visiting this forum and at this class racing thing 20 times longer than you " But then post the following ?

Maybee you don't realize it, but asking about how to manage your second major sponser, or how you can build a car that will run 4 seconds under the index, or how you plan on making money on building a class car really strikes a nerve with people (like me) who have an extensive winning record, Thousands of unrecovered dollars in, with no real sponser in site,

Ok.....well it may strike a nerve but a)it isnt my fault b)Im not your business manager and c)Im not going to stay quiet on something just because someone else is not capable. Think outside the box, look outside racing, or drag racing for people who are looking to tap that market. I found 2 with 3 phone calls.....Total time on phone 4 hours.

The economy sucks people are looking for untapped markets for products they already have tons of R&D in and are perfect fits for a different market...find em....If you want I will help and send you in some directions of things we decided not to purse because they werent a good fit for us, but they maybe for you.

Just because you have a brand new bogus car, and a "Former World Champ" driving it, doesn't mean you will turn that little light on right past the finish line. In fact, with the crap that flies from your mouth, and dealing with a new car,

Well its simple its about elimnating varaibles, I cant drive well enough to compete at a National level, yet, and I dont know I will ever be , I doubt I will. What I do KNOW is He IS capable, not that hes a lock but rather he is CAPABLE of doing something I have not done....simple problem solved. He is also aware of what it TAKE to win, and we will deffer to his knowledge period, I am setting the car up not for how I think it should be , but how HE thinks it should be and havent second guessed 1 item....He know , we dont.

I'd be willing to bet your team's round win-loss record is heavy on the loss side.

Hell, Ill GUARENTEE it will be , where did I ever day it wouldnt be ? I expect that. Its all about managing expectations, if we win 2 events this year at a National level I would be amazed and thrilled. I know how hard it is and dont have any expectation it isnt......? What was the point here.

You arn't going to keep many sponsers like that, and you've allready alienated at least half of the people on this board from even wanting to talk to you in person (other than just to see if your as egotistical and ignorant as the character you play on this board).

Well maybe publically thats true but for every negative post I get thrown in my direction I get about 4 or 5 PM's giving me the answers that I seek as well as them telling me how much they cant stand some of the people that are throwing crap in my direction (you are not one of them) so......I guess I see the stats from a different perspective. Everyday I have to empty my box which is becoming a pain because its all good info, and I dont want to loose track of the senders.
That aint going to sell that product either.

This **** is gonna sell itself PERIOD....Noone on the Drag side has seen anything like it. Simple....Its NHRA approved as of Oct 09 and well, an ECU that costs half as much as the Competing units for EFI cars and does twice as much its a leap above systems like the BS3 and Fast hands down, the old version did more than those and the new system is just coming of the assy line...........and has an extensive , extensive road racing, SCCA, and other records including land speed, and bikes...yes bikes.....but not 1 drag racer is running ? Yeah this is gonna sell itself, all that needs to happen is for it te be RUN and KNOWN...the rest will take care of itself, 3 other DP teams already are planning on the system because of our simply telling them about the system, they did their own research and made the decisions.

Besides they know me.... Thats why they made it happen.
So any "this that or the other" well they KNOW me personally and were good friends, theres little in that way ANYTHIN I can say or do that they a)dont expect and b)arent prepared for.

BTW, The only people who care about your bike stories are the ones who run bikes down the strip, and they don't post here

On that youre probably right, but its the only in life racing experience I have across the business side as well as the wrenching and running myself, there are many paralele you dont see. But in as much as that goes I use it as "Point of Refrence" in my posts since its the only I have.

So at least I will stop posting about my prior expereince in Motorcycles, I hope thats satisfactory Its all I can offer, and if its insufficient I apologize in advance.
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