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Old 04-16-2010, 09:15 PM   #75
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Default Re: Once again a bogus combination

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Originally Posted by Wayne Kerr View Post
Let's just say that the CJ's and DP's have spoiled AA/S thru G/S and AA/SA thru G/SA
that's 16 classes correct?
1. Now I would like to ask if you compete in one of these classes?
2. Do you have the quickest car in the country in your respective class?
3. In my opinion there are 16 people in the country that have a legitimate complaint.
4. Does it matter whether you are beaten by a CJ or DP or just a faster car?

I needed to take some of the heat off of poor Jeff T.

Flame on.
See you at the races,
Wayne Kerr
1. Yes, we do, 69 Camaro 427/425, A/SA and AA/SA.

2. No. Never claimed to. Still thrashing on it though.

3. That's your opinion. But, with respect, it does not consider other facts (see below).

4. There's a huge difference between being beaten by an established, correctly factored combination that someone has worked on for a few years to make run, and getting stomped by an improperly factored car that has the field covered by 5 tenths out of the box.

3a. The problem with your opinion is that most of the fastest cars in a given class do not travel everywhere, so people not in their division don't have to race them. Whereas these new cars are in every division. Example: Until the new cars came out, odds are the fastest AA/SA car was probably either DeArmond or Sorenson (with due respect to John Shaul and others). So AA/SA cars east of the Mississippi weren't likely to face the fastest AA/SA car in the country. But now they are likely to face a car far faster than either of those two. No doubt there are other very fast "older" AA/SA (and A/SA) cars in the country, Shaul, Meile, Calabro/Fasano, Couris, Pendarvis, Ficacci, DeFrank, Koppien, and a few others. But you could just about count all of those guys on two hands. If you add in the new cars being built, that figure more than doubles, and may even triple. That dramatically increases the odds of heads up races in those two classes, meaning the average guy in those classes with an older car is far more likely to run into a heads up race they can't win. Especially when the very fast older cars can't win in most cases facing a "new car", either.

It's not just about having the fastest car in the class in the country, it is at least just as much about having a reasonable chance to make a race of a heads up race, if you have a reasonably competitive car. If you've got a car that runs 1.0 or so under the new indexes, it's a powerful slap in the face to not have a chance in a heads up race in final eliminations. If you had a 1.0 under car, and got down to say 4 cars, and got beat by a new car that has you covered by 3 tenths, that's a pretty bitter pill to swallow if you've been working on your car and spending money on it for 5 or 10 years.


Flame? Why? And it is not the individual racers that anyone has a beef with, it's NHRA.
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