Re: worst red light debate, again!
Jeff said:
"Each participant has the same rule book to review before entering the first race. Each is given equal opportunity to red light. Each is given equal opportunity to cut a .000 reaction time and predict to .00 their ET. Either participant can win or loose based on their own actions."
If you have a quicker car, and I HAVE to leave first (no choice, but to leave first in a handicapped race, if your car is quicker) If I "bulb," you have NO "equal opportunity" to red light; you get a "win" by simply having staged your car.
There is NO situation in which the slower car can "enjoy" the same "gimmee."
The slower car ALWAYS faces red light jeopardy.
The quicker car does NOT. When his competitor red lights, he is REMOVED from red light jeopardy. And, gets a free ride to the next round or, winner's circle.
I can't see anything fair or equitable about that, can you?
If you can, please explain what is fair about that set of circumstances.
Two cars; one quicker, one slower... the slower one ALWAYS faces red light jeopardy... the faster car, ONLY if the first car goes green.
Makes no sense...
If you know of any Bracket tracks that utilize a "worse red light" system, please let me know. I do not.
That means that the starting line protocol (rules) for NHRA or IHRA "class racing" are 100-percent identical to the rules used in the Brackets.
That means that any comments, analyses, criticisms, or opinions that apply to Bracket starting line procedure also apply to class racing. 100-percent.
As such, since it's ALL done the same, WHY would you feel that comments about this system are impertinent, REGARDLESS of where the poster races? Everybody, the poster and the legal class racers, suffer the same, identical, fate at the hands of the first red light rule.
Everybody.
So, why would you think that a Bracket Racer's comments would be impertinent on a class racer's board when whatever is said, applies across the board, class or Bracket?
This particular board was created by Ken for the expressed purpose of giving a voice to people who are not currently racing a class car.
As such, there is no moderator-based editorializing regarding subject matter, or maybe you hadn't noticed?
As long as people who post here don't tell lies, unjustly accuse someone of something, don't slander people and don't use profanity, it would seem to be open to any kind of racing-related subject matter anyone wants to post.
I use it in that manner. As it was intended. If I am doing someting Ken doesn't feel is appropriate, he can tell me and I will cease and desist.
In the meantime, I will assume that SOMEBODY finds this thread interesting and prertinent. I received a phone call from somebody in Canada today (Monday) who said he doesn't post here, but has read every page, and is in awe of how anybody could not agree with me, on the red light issue. He is a former class racer who is currently building a new car.
That was nice to hear.
Your words, here, from this post... "Each is given equal opportunity to red light."
Not true.
The second car to leave gives up that "equal opportunity" if the first-to-leave "bulbs."
That's the unfair part.
You contend that the race is over, when the first-to-leave car bulbs, and THAT IS TRUE, with the current red light rule... but it doesn't have to be that way. That scenario was the result of antiquated electronics that existed in 1963. In the many years since then, advances in electronics have made it possible to fix that inequity.
Let's do it...
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Bill
Last edited by bill dedman; 05-10-2011 at 03:53 AM.
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