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Originally Posted by 69Cobra
Just making conversation. No disrespect intended
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No, it is not the defining question.
You forgot several questions.
Does it change the character and spirit of the class? Yes, But so do CJ's, DP's and COPO's
Does it open up the potential for cheating?No more than it is already. Lift is still measured at the valve.
Does it further escalate the RPM range?It probably will.
Does it merely change the name of the part which breaks?To be continued
Add roller rockers to the class. Then the only real difference between Stock Eliminator for 2012 and Super Stock of 1985 is roller cams and lifters, and the intake.Head work, Radiator, Seats, rear chassis, Throught the firewall cages (don't know if that goes back to '85 or not). But its not 1969 or 1985 anymore.
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None taken.
I'll address your points below.
Just because they have cars in our class that do not belong, it doesn't mean we need to make it worse. Doesn't matter what year it is, either, that's no excuse to keep screwing up the class.
I can do things with a roller rocker that cannot be done with a factory rocker. Especially with the advent of CNC machining being common. You can build the rocker to give the correct lift at peak lift and still do all sorts of things to the lift curve. I'm not going to go into that with anyone, I'll just say you should take a look at the old Crane "quick lift" rockers, or what ever they used to call them. There are other things that can be done, I won't let those secrets out either. Let's just say I had a long talk this week with three guys who know way more than I do, and all three agreed. They've got about 120 years experience going fast and setting records between them.
Sure it will, we'll have stockers turning as much or more RPM that Super Stock cars turned 20 years ago. But stockers are limited to heavy pistons and rods, and factory cranks, Super Stock is not.. Sounds like a good recipe for disaster to me. Some engines that can't stand the RPM may fall behind.
Stock is not allowed to have radiators that are not original size for the body, nor to have radiators that are not made of the original material. You can't put an aluminum radiator in a 69 Camaro for example.
Stock is not allowed to have through the firewall roll cage bars.
Stock currently requires original seats, I'm not sure it's a great idea given we're approaching 135 MPH with traditional combinations in fast classes.
Stock has an open valve job rule I already mentioned, not a good idea, but not a reason to add to the escalation.
Stock is not allowed to modify the rear frame other than connecting the roll cage.
The solution to breaking parts is not to keep asking for more aftermarket parts. The solution is to find out how to stop breaking that part. Every combination has limits, when you reach the limits, that's it, either change combinations, or switch to Super Stock. Otherwise, Stock Eliminator will
BE Super Stock before long.