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Old 04-15-2012, 03:56 PM   #27
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Default Re: Ford First "Stocker" Into The Eights

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Originally Posted by Bruce Noland View Post
Anthony,

I applaud your success in life. We fully understand the amount of work it takes to make a car fast and enjoyable.

Let's take a quick look at one of your team cars that you shipped south this winter. It picked up 22 horsepower in just two races and it still has a ton left. I am pleased to see that you allow your drivers to run these cars as they please. But you can plug in a new engine combination at any time and continue to run over top of the traditional Stockers for years to come. Yes, we know and enjoy hard work, however, these new cars are not breaking anybody's back to go fast.

Dave,
Citing prior transgressions by nhra does not make this one right.

Jack,
What did you say? Smoke and ah shucks is not going to make this problem go away.

Finally, the ahfs is a joke and all the nhra types hide behind it to say "hey look these cars are picking up Horsepower." But like the car I noted above, the ahfs is a bandaid over a gapping performance wound. This car is making twice the amount of it's nhra rated Horsepower. Anthony can confirm the real horsepower number for this car if he wishes to be honest with the racers.
Bruce, I just want to point out that the same motor you are talking about was originally in my 2008 stocker in 2009 and I was not making enough HP to be competitve with anything. It took us 2 years before we were making enough HP with that motor to put it back in a race car and we stood on it in Gainesville and Belle Rose. I don't disagree that the new cars run fast, but it doesn't just happen by itself.

If you look at the supercharged motor in my 2008 stocker, we were running 9.90's and 10.0's when it came out, and that was everything it had. We have worked real hard at figuring out what makes these motors tick and its been a big effort in getting to the low 9's. Getting there has been far more work than simply dropping a motor in a car.

The advantage that the new cars have is not so much that the motors are so fast out of the box. The advantage is that since the combinations are relatively new, incremental gains can be large as development is done. I have broken and blown up more motors than I would care to admit, but we have learned something each time we have done it.

As far as the AHFS is concerned, it may not be working as fast as you would like, but in my estimation, its working quite well.
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