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Originally Posted by bill dedman
The simple fact that you consider this "drivel" points up the fact that either, 1.. You don't really understand the situation, or 2. You DO understand it, and think that an unfair rule is just fine if it suits your purposes. Do you race a car that is the second to leave most of the time?
What does the fact that I don't currently race a car in Stock or Super Stock have to do with my opinion? Do you think you have to be a woman to be a good gynecologist???
Jeesh...
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Bill,
I have addressed this which you before, but I will do it again.
1. I completely understand the issue as you describe it.
2. For the last 2 years I have raced an I/SA car, I have yet to leave second.
The fact that you are not a current stock/ss racer is very relevant, but not for the reasons you think. Its because there are much bigger issues to those of us who do race in these class, that take precedence over changing the red-light rule.
In no form of handicapped drag racing, is there anything other than the first red light loses.
You are more than welcome to swim against the tide and attempt to "right the wrong" as you see it, however Stock and SS is not really the place to start that. As a whole, we all knew that part of the rule before we started. If it bothers you that much, maybe drag racing just isn't for you. But if you feel that you must continue on this crusade, let me offer my advice as to how to go about it.
1) start at your local bracket track. Offer to sponsor a free entry footbrake race, with a modest purse, under your "worst red light" rule. I'm sure, since its so simple to do, that you could figure out how to change the computer system for it. If not you could always just announce the winner of each race after its completion, by just unscrewing the red-lights and the win lights.
2) if its a success, and the racers seem to like your idea, maybe you could convince your local track to run the trophy or sportsman class that way for a year. This would give you some statistical data as to how many races your new adaptation of the red-light rule actually affected, since, as you have stated MANY times before, you don't believe that the existing data is accurate.
3) If you have succeeded thus far, you should now have some empirical data to support your claim. If it affects a significant number of races in which the first car to leave red lights, you should then talk to more tracks, and possibly your division director. At that point you may begin to effect major change in your crusade toward fairness (wow that sounds a lot like an Obama voter, lol).
Here is the caveat; if you succeed to step three and your new rule has a fairly insignificant effect on the outcome of races, be prepared for the fact that no one is going to want to change, even if it is "fairer". The process of the change would upset and confuse more people, those in the stands included, than it would benefit. I don't think you would see more slow cars win, or even more slow cars racing.
Bill, I admire your determination and diligence. If you wish to take up a cause that is important to us class racers, and run with it like you have here, then I would gladly support you.
Now as I stated earlier, I've raced an I/SA car for 2 years now. I've lost 3 times on a red light. Its was no ones fault but mine, I do not blame a rule that i was totally aware of before I ever strapped into a car. I've also lost a race due to my dial in being wrong, as little john kelley pointed out. I think that if you have your dial clearly written on all 4 sides of your car, the tower should have a tiny bit of responsibility in reading it correctly. However I do understand the rule as it stands.
So, Bill, no offense to you personally, but give it a rest on this issue. Its not going to change, and if it is, its not going to come from stock or ss. When i can look at just the thread title that you started and already know that you are making an end run toward the red light rule, yes it becomes drivel. You've become that predictable. The more you bring it up on this board, you are actually turning people against the idea, simply because most of us are tired of hearing it. I wish you the best of luck in implementing it at your home track, and look forward to the imperial data you are able to gather. THAT, may actually sway some opinions.