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Originally Posted by KRatcliff
The point of the emmissions/VIN comment is that it isn't just a technology advancement that is making these factory ringers more competitive than the cars that have been accepted in the guide up to their release. It is that the factories leaned on the NHRA to accept cars to compete with all the other stockers that have components that wouldn't function on the street. That is a stocker in my opinion and it also meets the intent of the rules. Anything beyond that would be factory experimental or a super stocker which is a natural extension of a stocker.
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On this we are pretty much in agreement. But if the emissions stuff hadn't started to be a factor in 1971. Do you think that the factories wouldn't have continued to push the limits? Pontiac was working on the RA V, Buick on the Stage 2, etc.
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My 1998 LT1 example you are using is weak at best. The engine did meet those emission standards and is no different than any that were in thousands of cars before. There is zero performance advantage of a 1998 over a 1997 or beyond. Can you say that about these new cars? Is there any advantage over their street versions? More compression? Bigger blowers (more compression)? More radical camshafts? Larger throttle bodies?
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You asked for an example of a car without a VIN. As far as performance goes you are preaching to the choir. Of course until recently the LT1 caught as much flack as the new cars on this forum. Funny how things change!
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Yes, the new cars are in the guide. Enjoy your ride. I am sure it will be nice and fast. You shouldn't have to sweat qualifying at Indy or any heads up matches unless it is another of the newer cars. Be careful of what you wish for because you may actually get it. The game you are playing is way more expensive than the one I am.
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You obviously don't know me. I love to run heads-up and am most often the under dog. We ran a very good Top Stock series in IHRA Division 9 for a couple of years. Anyone who raced with us will tell you that it was fair and fun. Why do you think I am building a B/SA car? I like the idea of some of the other races for the COPO. If I run it in Class it will be in CC or above. Which should be safe for the vast majority of the older cars.
About four years ago I wished for a COPO..........