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bill dedman · 09-14-2007, 08:00 PM

Bruce said,

"Reply to your post?" Yes; I appreciate the time you took to reply to my post.

Then, Bruce said, "Ivory Tower"? My reference to an "Ivory Tower" was a mildly sarcastic comment on the "powers that be" in Glendora, who don't seem to understand or care much about the finer points of what a mess they have on their hands in regard to the AFHS. It, no way, was aimed at you, Bruce,or any other racer. I'm not sure you took it that way, but that's what it was; a reference to the Druids...

Then, Bruce said, "I have told you exactly what I think about the AHFS."
That you did, but my request was not related to your opinion of the AHFS, but rather, an ancillary problem with the way horsepower factors are applied to select cars instead of ALL cars with that engine. I was in hopes that maybe you could include your thoughts about that situation along with the changes you were suggesting (which BTW, I completely agree with.) For all I know, you may think it's perfectly okay to keep that system; I was asking if it was something you could try to get changed (if that is your desire), since I didn't think the drivers were polled about going to that system before they made that change.
You never addressed that issue in your response. I'm not sure what that means, RE: YOUR feelings about that issue.

Then, Bruce said, "And yes it would help if you were a racer because you would then have a serious investment in the proper administration of the AHFS."

I can't blame you for feeling that way, but unless I am mistaken, there is a Class Racer BB for "racers only," and participation on that board is limited to people who, like you, currently have a permanent number and campaign a Class car. This board, by default, would seem to be for the rest of us, who are serious about seeing things done "correctly," and who care deeply about the health of the sport. We have opinions that,ofttimes come from many years of careful scrutiny of the rules and practices of NHRA Class racing, and you know what they say about opinions... well, that was mine. In short, I make no apologies for posting my opinion here, but realize that that's all it is..... just MY opinion. Yours may vary.

Then, Bruce said," Many racers have been had by the latest round of AHFS hits, and they ain't happy about it either."

I don't know what that was in reference to, but I am 100% in agreement with that statement. You said it in a manner that made it seem that I was somehow contentious about it, but that is ~so~ not true. I heartily support what you are trying to do, and agree that something needs to be done. I am in no way disagreeing with you on any of your AHFS stance. In fact, I applaud it!

Finally, Bruce said, "So maybe you should go sit on the Ivory Tower. Or, regardless of your disclaimers, get a Class car."

I have NO IDEA where that came from. I didn't disagree with anything you said, and don't understand your attitude in writing something like that. I surely didn't mean to offend you in any way; I was just asking if you'd be interested in addressing the problem (as I see it, it's a problem) of the way they assign factored horsepower to select cars, when someone "earns" an increase. That was ALL I was asking.

Insofar as getting a Class car, I wish with all my heart that I could afford to go Class racing, but it's not in the cards for me,. The fact that I can't afford to build a legitimate Class car doesn't mean, however, that I cease to care about what goes on. I have some close friends who DO have Class cars and I see what they are up against with this ridiculous AHFS, and am eager to do what I can to help change it. I guess whether my opinion is a valid one or not, depends on how much of it somebody agrees with. Having been a tech at local strips (as an NHRA Area Tech Advisor 1960-1964 in Div. IV), racing a Class car for several years, and helping friends with their Class cars over the years, and attending NHRA drag races "religiously" since 1955 (no typo) gives me a perspective that a lot of folks may not have. Maybe my opinion MIGHT be worth something, even though I don't currently race anything but a Bracket car.

At any rate, it's all still just my opinion.... nothing more.

Thanks for listening.

Bill

09-14-2007, 08:00 PM	#2
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: AA/S AAA/S and Class consolidation Bruce said, "Reply to your post?" Yes; I appreciate the time you took to reply to my post. Then, Bruce said, "Ivory Tower"? My reference to an "Ivory Tower" was a mildly sarcastic comment on the "powers that be" in Glendora, who don't seem to understand or care much about the finer points of what a mess they have on their hands in regard to the AFHS. It, no way, was aimed at you, Bruce,or any other racer. I'm not sure you took it that way, but that's what it was; a reference to the Druids... Then, Bruce said, "I have told you exactly what I think about the AHFS." That you did, but my request was not related to your opinion of the AHFS, but rather, an ancillary problem with the way horsepower factors are applied to select cars instead of ALL cars with that engine. I was in hopes that maybe you could include your thoughts about that situation along with the changes you were suggesting (which BTW, I completely agree with.) For all I know, you may think it's perfectly okay to keep that system; I was asking if it was something you could try to get changed (if that is your desire), since I didn't think the drivers were polled about going to that system before they made that change. You never addressed that issue in your response. I'm not sure what that means, RE: YOUR feelings about that issue. Then, Bruce said, "And yes it would help if you were a racer because you would then have a serious investment in the proper administration of the AHFS." I can't blame you for feeling that way, but unless I am mistaken, there is a Class Racer BB for "racers only," and participation on that board is limited to people who, like you, currently have a permanent number and campaign a Class car. This board, by default, would seem to be for the rest of us, who are serious about seeing things done "correctly," and who care deeply about the health of the sport. We have opinions that,ofttimes come from many years of careful scrutiny of the rules and practices of NHRA Class racing, and you know what they say about opinions... well, that was mine. In short, I make no apologies for posting my opinion here, but realize that that's all it is..... just MY opinion. Yours may vary. Then, Bruce said," Many racers have been had by the latest round of AHFS hits, and they ain't happy about it either." I don't know what that was in reference to, but I am 100% in agreement with that statement. You said it in a manner that made it seem that I was somehow contentious about it, but that is ~so~ not true. I heartily support what you are trying to do, and agree that something needs to be done. I am in no way disagreeing with you on any of your AHFS stance. In fact, I applaud it! Finally, Bruce said, "So maybe you should go sit on the Ivory Tower. Or, regardless of your disclaimers, get a Class car." I have NO IDEA where that came from. I didn't disagree with anything you said, and don't understand your attitude in writing something like that. I surely didn't mean to offend you in any way; I was just asking if you'd be interested in addressing the problem (as I see it, it's a problem) of the way they assign factored horsepower to select cars, when someone "earns" an increase. That was ALL I was asking. Insofar as getting a Class car, I wish with all my heart that I could afford to go Class racing, but it's not in the cards for me,. The fact that I can't afford to build a legitimate Class car doesn't mean, however, that I cease to care about what goes on. I have some close friends who DO have Class cars and I see what they are up against with this ridiculous AHFS, and am eager to do what I can to help change it. I guess whether my opinion is a valid one or not, depends on how much of it somebody agrees with. Having been a tech at local strips (as an NHRA Area Tech Advisor 1960-1964 in Div. IV), racing a Class car for several years, and helping friends with their Class cars over the years, and attending NHRA drag races "religiously" since 1955 (no typo) gives me a perspective that a lot of folks may not have. Maybe my opinion MIGHT be worth something, even though I don't currently race anything but a Bracket car. At any rate, it's all still just my opinion.... nothing more. Thanks for listening. Bill __________________ Bill Last edited by bill dedman; 09-14-2007 at 08:09 PM. Reason: added a space...