[HawkBrosMav]

Thanks for the quick responses!

I want to clarify our thinking on a couple of the points that have been brought up. Lets have an open discussion and see if we can come to a compromise/agreement on how to do this.

First the 4 reasons we went with Qualifying on RT:

1. This series at least at first is going to be fairly small.. We are being realistic in hoping at race #1 we have a solid 20 cars.. if there is more we will be ecstatic. Our fear of qualifying against the index is that the ladder will look the same each and every race. That really isn't any fun.

2. We also don't want this series to be a rich man's game. We realize this class is expensive and it takes money and hard work to go fast, but like we stated in the original post. We want this to draw some new interest to S/SS. If we do the qualifying points the way were purposed. The number one guy is earning an 2 entire rounds worth of points over the last place guy just because he can afford to go faster. While we realize this is a performance class, we are just trying to balance the small scale and funding of the racer we are trying to attract. A lot of the reason for creating is to draw some of the racers that can't afford to run the Lucas series and get them cars out of the garage..We don't see a lot of money being spent to speed cars up at this point.

3. Next, we did look at a lot of the series that have rules posted across the country and most of them do use RT for qualifying. We thought, if a lot of them did it this way, it was fairly accepted.

4. We are only 2 people and we planned on racing at these events as well. This leaves us enough time to complete only certain things on race day, when it comes to extra work involved. We also don't own all the necessary tools to correctly do any kind of tear down. This means that if someone wanted to stretch the rules, we really don't have a realistic way of policing it. Will people do things like this?? who knows.. We are all aware of the stuff that is already done at the NHRA/IHRA racing because they are in a similar situation with no man power. They at least have HP consequences to help deter people for making outlandish passes with illegal combos.

We are for sure up for discussing potential changes to what we have laid out.

First of all, after these first responses, I think we want to include Heads up eliminations when same class cars run each other. We were already 50/50 on this and can see that this needs to be done.

What I would like to propose are 3 solutions to the qualifying aspect:

Option 1:

We leave the laddering of 1st round based on RT, but we could award qualifying points based on a different list of us qualifying against the index...points would only go to the top half of the field in similar fashion as we would have before. (ex: 16 cars. 1 would receive 8 pts down to number 8 receiving 1 pt. the bottom half of the field would receive no qualifying points, but this would accomplish part of the goal, of eliminating ties.) I would then also like to include a bonus point system for Win, Runner-up, and Semis. This being the Winner would receive 3 points. Runner-up 2 points. Each semi finalist would receive 1 pt. The rest of ties would be broken by the listed criteria in the original post..


Option 2:

We would always qualify against the index. Top half of field would get inverse points as before, and Win, R-up, and Semi would get same bonuses (per option 1), but in this option we would draw at race #1 whether we would be doing a PRO or SPORTSMAN ladder and rotate, or redraw at every race after that, so we might mix up the pairs a little bit. This would allow us to stay truer to the S/SS identity but also not become so predictable with the pairing every race.


Option 3:

We leave everything the way it is for qualifying and Matt and I will create a ladder based on what it would have been if we qualified against the index. We look at the 6 ladders from the year and see how similar they actually are. If they are very similar across the 6 races we stay with RT if they seem to have been justifiably different we switch to qualifying against the index for the future.

Let us know your favorite or let us know any other ideas..

Thanks

Brad Hawk