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Old 01-25-2020, 10:47 PM   #258
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Default Re: Best Pontiac Powered Super Stockers

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Originally Posted by oldskool View Post
Yeah, maybe I didn't make clear what I was trying to say.

IF, & ONLY if the info on the site I'm linking is correct (and I have know way of knowing if it is or isn't), then:

(1) The hp factor for Ventura reg SS, with both man & auto trans, as well as GT cars with man trans, is 250hp.

(2) For all other non-Ventura bodies running reg SS, with both man & auto trans, the factor is 254hp.

(3) For all GT RWD vehicles, runing an auto trans, the factor is 256hp.

So, if this info IS correct, NHRA has assigned 3 different hp factors to exactly the same engine.

http://www.classracerinfo.com/Engine...8&MAKE=Pontiac

So, I'm wondering why a Ventura running reg SS, gets only 250hp, while all other bodies running regular SS, with the same engine, get 254hp. And, why all GT cars running an auto trans get 256hp, while GT cars running a man trans get only 250hp. Another way to say it is: What does the body style or trans type have to do with the power an engine makes. Just my hillbilly common sense tells me that if an engine makes 250 dyno hp, that engine would make the same amount of power, at the flywheel, regardless of what vehicle that eninge was put into. But, obviously, that's NOT the way NHRA sees it.

And, obviously, NHRA does this with some other brands as well, since I've read on this site of others complaining about it. If I understand it correctly, SOMETIMES this difference is based on the fact that a single person, or more, has run really quick with a particular engine, in a particular vehicle, whereas other vehicles, with exactly the same engine, have not run as quick, therefore ONLY the quick combo gets the hp increase. Assuming that's the way it works, in SOME cases. ???
Let me clear up the confusion. There presently is only one 1974 GTO running in either S/S or GT with the 350, 200 HP engine that it came with. That would be me. My combination has been rated at 250 HP in the GTO for decades. This past season I hurt the combination while running in GT/QA at four different races. As a result, I was awarded 6 HP for my efforts. However, there were no triggers in S/S with my combination. So, it remains at 250 HP in Super/Stock. The only Pontiac Ventura II in 1974 with the ram air 350 at 200 HP was the GTO, not any other variant. For the record, the 1974 Ventura II with a flat hood(non ram-air) was only available with a two barrel and was factory rated at 170 HP. Larry Maxwell is running the GTO 350, 200 HP motor in his Firebird. We are the only two racers in the entire planet that run this motor, at the present time. 2020 will be the 26th year that I've run my 1974 GTO. Thirteen years in Stock Eliminator and now thirteen in Super/Stock.
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