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Old 01-07-2022, 07:13 PM   #76
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Default Re: Explain to me again, please

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Originally Posted by Terry Cain View Post
Understand. 40 yrs. tool maker/maintenance/machinist, and floor sweeper.
In an effort to understand how we ended up as some on here would let you to believe
we are only a few rule changes away from super stock , we have to go back to the spring rule ,in the 80's NHRA decided to do away with the spring rule , I ,and others asked what the reason was ,and as always I, and others were told the racers wanted it , so this is the way I ,and (I am not speaking for other racers ) , this rule change was so NHRA did not have to check the springs , again I asked why ,and in NHRA's way of keeping the racer informed they said the racers wanted it ,the canned answer , it was not long after that the cam was no longer checked for duration , these two rules opened the door for Schubeck to manufacture a ceramic lifter , maybe at the start it looked great ,but when the pucks started coming off, maybe not , now before others start getting on here saying I have been running them for year's I also have been running them for years , with a lot of attention paid to the valve lash ,and the valve springs , why because if the lash get's to big or the spring fails the lifter will bounce on the cam lobe ,and those that have had the misfortune of the puck breaking off the lifter body know all about it ,and what happens next , so Schubeck disappears for what ever reason ,and Smith starts making the same lifter with still the same results , and disappears ,at this point you have to think the spring rule started this , and you can not blame someone that try's to help like Schubeck . So fast forward to 2016, I for one ,and others talked to the Tech department ,and showed them the failures from the lifters ,I asked to put the rule back at that time to stock springs like the in the past the answer was we will put it under consideration ,good enough, so while they have it under consideration the tool steel lifters become an option , no puck to come lose off or break in a million pieces
if you bonce it on the cam lobe ,just the cam starting to frett ,and lifter wear , but not to worry the too steel lifters can be resurfaced ,but through away the cam , so next a billet cam is needed ,and coated tool steel lifters , to work with the billet cam , so here we are today $ 2100 dollar lifters for a Chevrolet a $ 650,00 steel billet cam not to mention months to get the lifters like to set I ordered six months ago . I like many I talk to are trying to to make the cam ,and lifters work as the rules are at present ,it's not that we necessarily want roller lifters , but at this point after fifty years of racing stock and super stock ,I see for myself that super stock is the place for me as I only have a few years left ,I hope NHRA and stock /super stock is around at least until I quit for good !
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