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Jeff Lee · 06-17-2008, 02:11 PM

The following is from a post on the AMC Forum. It is regarding cylinder head gaskets and I chimed in about the SCE "ICS Titan" product line. It is a MLS product with an integeral O-ring surrounding the cylinder.
I thought it interesting enought to post it here on this subject. Specifically, I wanted to show how a quality minded manufacturer see's what happens to the end user's once the bean counters step in. I believe these comments apply specifically to the discussion of stamped rocker arms.

Ralfy,
I forwarded this link to Ryan Hunter, President of SCE Gaskets. I have a limited engagement with SCE as I was the one who asked for this product (AMC) and received the first batch when they came from engineering. I asked Mr. Hunter to read the link and specifically your comments.
I received an immediate response which reads:

Jeff,
I read the thread and I want to thank you for your comments. Unsolicited endorsements from actual users at your level of competition can’t be bought, whereas paying for space in a magazine can be done by any company regardless of the quality of their part and too often the consuming public believes the propaganda. SCE has been around long enough to see several cycles of what was described in the posts by users of other head gaskets; raw material costs go up, the bean counters require better profit performance, so cheaper raw materials are sourced and the public is unaware that what used to be the best is now equivalent to a cheap import. As a racer you know how difficult it can be to trace down hidden problems; you know something is different, but what changed? Cost cutting at the expense of quality and performance hurts the consuming public, it’s the old bait and switch.
The best that true performance manufacturers can hope for is to have users like you tell about their experience and help get others back on the trail. To be sure, our ICS head gaskets are very expensive; not because “it’s patented and we can get away with it” rather, they are very pricey to manufacture. Still, I could not do business with a clear conscience if I wasn’t also sure that the buyer is getting better value, as the hackneyed saying goes “the sting of poor quality will surely outlast the joy of a low price”. Thanks again,
Ryan Hunter
President
SCE Gaskets, Inc.
rhunter@scegaskets.com
661-728-9200

06-17-2008, 02:11 PM	#83
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Roller Rockers in Stock The following is from a post on the AMC Forum. It is regarding cylinder head gaskets and I chimed in about the SCE "ICS Titan" product line. It is a MLS product with an integeral O-ring surrounding the cylinder. I thought it interesting enought to post it here on this subject. Specifically, I wanted to show how a quality minded manufacturer see's what happens to the end user's once the bean counters step in. I believe these comments apply specifically to the discussion of stamped rocker arms. Ralfy, I forwarded this link to Ryan Hunter, President of SCE Gaskets. I have a limited engagement with SCE as I was the one who asked for this product (AMC) and received the first batch when they came from engineering. I asked Mr. Hunter to read the link and specifically your comments. I received an immediate response which reads: Jeff, I read the thread and I want to thank you for your comments. Unsolicited endorsements from actual users at your level of competition can’t be bought, whereas paying for space in a magazine can be done by any company regardless of the quality of their part and too often the consuming public believes the propaganda. SCE has been around long enough to see several cycles of what was described in the posts by users of other head gaskets; raw material costs go up, the bean counters require better profit performance, so cheaper raw materials are sourced and the public is unaware that what used to be the best is now equivalent to a cheap import. As a racer you know how difficult it can be to trace down hidden problems; you know something is different, but what changed? Cost cutting at the expense of quality and performance hurts the consuming public, it’s the old bait and switch. The best that true performance manufacturers can hope for is to have users like you tell about their experience and help get others back on the trail. To be sure, our ICS head gaskets are very expensive; not because “it’s patented and we can get away with it” rather, they are very pricey to manufacture. Still, I could not do business with a clear conscience if I wasn’t also sure that the buyer is getting better value, as the hackneyed saying goes “the sting of poor quality will surely outlast the joy of a low price”. Thanks again, Ryan Hunter President SCE Gaskets, Inc. rhunter@scegaskets.com 661-728-9200 __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX Last edited by Jeff Lee; 06-18-2008 at 02:24 AM.