CLASS RACER FORUM - View Single Post - How many classes are needed in Stock or SS?

Dick Butler · 07-20-2008, 10:50 AM

Start with the reasons for the question which started this post.
1) no sponsor money or very low for S and SS other than Eliminator
Reason Large number of classes to post and many nationals. Disgust with paying NHRA for empty class or bye run racers. They see this as poor investment as no cars using their products in class.
2) Low car counts in many classes and when entry restricted lower per class or many byes
Reason: Total numbers of racers in the country divided by many classes and geography cant all enter or attend.
3)Spectator appeal down at Divisional and Open events and even Sportsnational Spectator numbers down to essentially nothing. Result No money other than participants entry and Sponsor money to pay prize money and overhead. Reasons Many including internal attitude of NHRA feeling no one cars about Sportsman racing as a spectator due to many factors. The least of which is not the Dial in only format.
4) High Cost of creating S or SS car which can run competitively under the index is extreme today.If they are only to be used to Dial in for eliminator then WHY the high technology, WHy the strict rules(changing).
5) There are racers who enjoy winning class and the Pride which comes from this type of racing.
6) Eliminator only truely rewards one S and SS racer. RESPONSE: If more classes had 15 cars and could attract paying sponsors again then MANY racers could share at this level the rewards of Trophy, Pride in achievement and driving skills.
Couldnt there at least be more opportunity and conditions that increase that possibility, and encourage SPonsors to pay.Isnt the dilution to few or one car per class showing the opportunity to merge some classes?Isnt the change to quickest 128 showing that performance is overriding the Class win due to its diminished value from the NHRA point of view and the more competitive racers being favored?
Jim and Art Notice in no place were FWD cars listed negatively. If you re read the original post Mod cars were questioned in SS and the Stick/ Auto combination questioned as well. GT/SS combination is questioned too.
Any or all of these could take adjustment, factor, wt break but the question stands. How many classes?for improvement of other peoples type of racing preferences.
Seeing SS/AH at 17 cars, GT/AA at 15 and BA at close to that has anyone checked how many classes will not be represented?
People are enthusiatic about the GT/AA class run and SS/AH as well. This could be spread to many classes and the Greater number of racers enjoy the Pride of achievement of winning Class since Eliminator is only a One man victory.

07-20-2008, 10:50 AM	#31
Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,196 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: How many classes are needed in Stock or SS? Start with the reasons for the question which started this post. 1) no sponsor money or very low for S and SS other than Eliminator Reason Large number of classes to post and many nationals. Disgust with paying NHRA for empty class or bye run racers. They see this as poor investment as no cars using their products in class. 2) Low car counts in many classes and when entry restricted lower per class or many byes Reason: Total numbers of racers in the country divided by many classes and geography cant all enter or attend. 3)Spectator appeal down at Divisional and Open events and even Sportsnational Spectator numbers down to essentially nothing. Result No money other than participants entry and Sponsor money to pay prize money and overhead. Reasons Many including internal attitude of NHRA feeling no one cars about Sportsman racing as a spectator due to many factors. The least of which is not the Dial in only format. 4) High Cost of creating S or SS car which can run competitively under the index is extreme today.If they are only to be used to Dial in for eliminator then WHY the high technology, WHy the strict rules(changing). 5) There are racers who enjoy winning class and the Pride which comes from this type of racing. 6) Eliminator only truely rewards one S and SS racer. RESPONSE: If more classes had 15 cars and could attract paying sponsors again then MANY racers could share at this level the rewards of Trophy, Pride in achievement and driving skills. Couldnt there at least be more opportunity and conditions that increase that possibility, and encourage SPonsors to pay.Isnt the dilution to few or one car per class showing the opportunity to merge some classes?Isnt the change to quickest 128 showing that performance is overriding the Class win due to its diminished value from the NHRA point of view and the more competitive racers being favored? Jim and Art Notice in no place were FWD cars listed negatively. If you re read the original post Mod cars were questioned in SS and the Stick/ Auto combination questioned as well. GT/SS combination is questioned too. Any or all of these could take adjustment, factor, wt break but the question stands. How many classes?for improvement of other peoples type of racing preferences. Seeing SS/AH at 17 cars, GT/AA at 15 and BA at close to that has anyone checked how many classes will not be represented? People are enthusiatic about the GT/AA class run and SS/AH as well. This could be spread to many classes and the Greater number of racers enjoy the Pride of achievement of winning Class since Eliminator is only a One man victory.