Stock 2007 Top Ten

Larry Hill · 09-29-2008, 08:57 PM

Where are they now #1 Iacono is now #46; #2 Biondo not listed top 50; #3 J. Lang #15; #4 Plourd not listed top 50; #5 J Emmons not listed top 50; #6 Richardson #25;#7 Fletcher #30; #8 Zane now #1; #9 Bertozzi #49; #10 Henderson not listed top 50.

Only Five national events have been won by people in the top ten.
It looks like taking away the button has helped us all have a better chance of beating the traveling "PROS".
The "Pros" are still great racers but the repeatably of the great lights is reduced significantly.

vic guilmino · 09-29-2008, 09:34 PM

I think lee has won about five nhra races this year
but you are right

THE LEGEND · 09-29-2008, 09:48 PM

Zane is a very good FOOTBRAKER.
I do agree with Larry though.
Chip

Alan Roehrich · 09-29-2008, 10:30 PM

Fletcher, Biondo, and Bertozzi have all been running a fair amount of Comp this year. Biondo has not really been traveling as much, I think Bertozzi has as eased up some as well. I haven't kept up with Fletcher. I think Biondo has won a couple of national events this year, and been runner up once or twice. I'd say they've all done fairly well, and they all probably need about a year or so to adjust. The odds of them continuing to be dominant constantly for an extended period of time are not really all that good, so a rough year or two is to be expected every so often. I would not say the "button rule" by itself is the controlling factor. It's likely to be a smaller contributing factor. And I was a major proponent of the "button rule" as it stands, except there are a couple of safety issues that require changes.

Some years, the breaks just don't go your way. All it takes is some bad luck to make a huge difference. Some years the qualifying strategy just doesn't work out as well at a couple more races than it did the year before. Some years you get by with more bad lights than you do others. Even guys like the ones we mentioned usually have at least one less than stellar light in most races. Whether or not some one is there to take advantage of that with a good light is mostly luck.

A better statistical sample would be average reaction times and the deviations from that average. Maybe Nitro Joe will jump in, or maybe someone will pony up and pay him to. It would be interesting to know, but I've got other things I rather concentrate on.

Michael Beard · 09-30-2008, 09:02 AM

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Some years, the breaks just don't go your way.

I hear that! If you looked at the points, you'd never know it, but this year has been my 2nd-best of my career financially... yet I've had a dozen first round losses at IHRA points races with the Volare alone... and that doesn't count Super Stock or bracket races! Driving the same as always, just get the wrong guy at the wrong time. Most of those rounds have been thousandths, all year. -=shrug=- 'Tis what it 'tis...

Troy Henderson · 09-30-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Where are they now #1 Iacono is now #46; #2 Biondo not listed top 50; #3 J. Lang #15; #4 Plourd not listed top 50; #5 J Emmons not listed top 50; #6 Richardson #25;#7 Fletcher #30; #8 Zane now #1; #9 Bertozzi #49; #10 Henderson not listed top 50.

Only Five national events have been won by people in the top ten.
It looks like taking away the button has helped us all have a better chance of beating the traveling "PROS".
The "Pros" are still great racers but the repeatably of the great lights is reduced significantly.

What button? lol

Superfan1 · 09-30-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Larry Hill

Where are they now #1 Iacono is now #46; #2 Biondo not listed top 50; #3 J. Lang #15; #4 Plourd not listed top 50; #5 J Emmons not listed top 50; #6 Richardson #25;#7 Fletcher #30; #8 Zane now #1; #9 Bertozzi #49; #10 Henderson not listed top 50.

Only Five national events have been won by people in the top ten.
It looks like taking away the button has helped us all have a better chance of beating the traveling "PROS".
The "Pros" are still great racers but the repeatably of the great lights is reduced significantly.

Dan Fletcher is competing in Comp in Rick Braun's C/EA, and in SS in his own Camaro. His son Thomas has been driving the Stocker at a few National and Divisional events.
Bill Seabrooks - superfan1

Ed Wright · 09-30-2008, 03:09 PM

The Emmons boys aren't making as many races this year. I don't think the button change has hurt them.
Running a business and cleaning up after hurricanes can slow a guy's activities down.

Brad Plourd · 09-30-2008, 05:33 PM

The button rule has NOTHING to do with who is winning or not. Period. End of story. Many of the Top 10 from last year were already foot braking. Good racers adapt.

larry dowty · 09-30-2008, 06:06 PM

YIKES!!! Brad you took that personel??

09-29-2008, 08:57 PM	#1
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,629 Likes: 1,922 Liked 10,681 Times in 2,222 Posts	Stock 2007 Top Ten Where are they now #1 Iacono is now #46; #2 Biondo not listed top 50; #3 J. Lang #15; #4 Plourd not listed top 50; #5 J Emmons not listed top 50; #6 Richardson #25;#7 Fletcher #30; #8 Zane now #1; #9 Bertozzi #49; #10 Henderson not listed top 50. Only Five national events have been won by people in the top ten. It looks like taking away the button has helped us all have a better chance of beating the traveling "PROS". The "Pros" are still great racers but the repeatably of the great lights is reduced significantly. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

09-29-2008, 09:34 PM	#2
vic guilmino Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: wv Posts: 884 Likes: 42 Liked 56 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Stock 2007 Top Ten I think lee has won about five nhra races this year but you are right __________________ Vic Guilmino 1129 STK

09-29-2008, 09:48 PM	#3
THE LEGEND VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Fayetteville, n.c. Posts: 1,411 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Stock 2007 Top Ten Zane is a very good FOOTBRAKER. I do agree with Larry though. Chip

09-29-2008, 10:30 PM	#4
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,105 Likes: 1,564 Liked 1,789 Times in 408 Posts	Re: Stock 2007 Top Ten Fletcher, Biondo, and Bertozzi have all been running a fair amount of Comp this year. Biondo has not really been traveling as much, I think Bertozzi has as eased up some as well. I haven't kept up with Fletcher. I think Biondo has won a couple of national events this year, and been runner up once or twice. I'd say they've all done fairly well, and they all probably need about a year or so to adjust. The odds of them continuing to be dominant constantly for an extended period of time are not really all that good, so a rough year or two is to be expected every so often. I would not say the "button rule" by itself is the controlling factor. It's likely to be a smaller contributing factor. And I was a major proponent of the "button rule" as it stands, except there are a couple of safety issues that require changes. Some years, the breaks just don't go your way. All it takes is some bad luck to make a huge difference. Some years the qualifying strategy just doesn't work out as well at a couple more races than it did the year before. Some years you get by with more bad lights than you do others. Even guys like the ones we mentioned usually have at least one less than stellar light in most races. Whether or not some one is there to take advantage of that with a good light is mostly luck. A better statistical sample would be average reaction times and the deviations from that average. Maybe Nitro Joe will jump in, or maybe someone will pony up and pay him to. It would be interesting to know, but I've got other things I rather concentrate on. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S Last edited by Alan Roehrich; 09-29-2008 at 10:47 PM.

09-30-2008, 03:09 PM	#8
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Stock 2007 Top Ten The Emmons boys aren't making as many races this year. I don't think the button change has hurt them. Running a business and cleaning up after hurricanes can slow a guy's activities down. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

09-30-2008, 05:33 PM	#9
Brad Plourd Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 196 Likes: 39 Liked 67 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Stock 2007 Top Ten The button rule has NOTHING to do with who is winning or not. Period. End of story. Many of the Top 10 from last year were already foot braking. Good racers adapt. Last edited by Brad Plourd; 09-30-2008 at 05:39 PM.

09-30-2008, 06:06 PM	#10
larry dowty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: chewelah wa Posts: 283 Likes: 0 Liked 11 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Stock 2007 Top Ten YIKES!!! Brad you took that personel??