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Ed Fernandez · 04-23-2009, 10:07 AM

I know it's not S/SS elated but NHRA is going to test a new engine format for the T/F and F/Cs.
Looks like there will be alot of either slow or junk runs for a while till they adapt.

1.) 4.187 Bore
2.) 3.750 Stroke
3.) 7 to 1 Compression
4.) Single 70-gallon fuel pump
5.) 15% overdrive on the blower
6.) No timing management
7.) 350 rear end gear
8.) 90% Nitro Methane limit

To my lack of knowledge the biggest hurdle looks like the "no timing management" clause.
Maybe a few AA/SA cars will qualify in the short fields.
Just a guess,I'll say they will be in the 4.80/295 range in the 1/4.I'm probably way off though.
Ed F.

bill dedman · 04-23-2009, 10:45 AM

Why don't they just take the wings off of 'em? That'll slow them down, and it's CHEAP!!!

X-TECH MAN · 04-23-2009, 11:00 AM

Why not just cut the nitro percentage to 50% MAX, reduce blower over drive, and compression????? OR take one half of the field and start them all at one time at the starting line as usual and the other half of the field and start them all at one time at the finish line and see who can get to the 1/8 mile first.....lol.

bill dedman · 04-23-2009, 11:08 AM

X-TECH...
I LIKE the way you think!!!! (the eighth-mile deal.... lol!)

Bill

novassdude · 04-23-2009, 11:15 AM

That won't work Bill they would just have to peddel them all the time and that would cause them to scatter parts more often.

bill dedman · 04-23-2009, 12:37 PM

Not my problem...

Tom Goldman · 04-23-2009, 04:16 PM

Even tho it's not S/SS, or SG ,I find the fact that NHRA is trying to reel in the HP on the fuel cars interesting. ....I rarely enjoy watching the fuel cars at the track because so few of the tracks allow a spectator the proper perspectve to appreciate 300+mph. .........The loss of one pump is significant,altho the 3.50 gear will really help slow them even more,as the nitro cars really dont run well unless they are running against a hard load. .......I like the no timing control deal, any one who thinks a Super class car has too much electronics,has not looked at a modern Fuel car ! ......It should take the Allen Johnsons of the Fuel world a little while to overcome the limitations that this combo would present. .....Tom

Bryan Worner · 04-23-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Goldman

Even tho it's not S/SS, or SG ,I find the fact that NHRA is trying to reel in the HP on the fuel cars interesting. ....I rarely enjoy watching the fuel cars at the track because so few of the tracks allow a spectator the proper perspectve to appreciate 300+mph. .........The loss of one pump is significant,altho the 3.50 gear will really help slow them even more,as the nitro cars really dont run well unless they are running against a hard load. .......I like the no timing control deal, any one who thinks a Super class car has too much electronics,has not looked at a modern Fuel car ! ......It should take the Allen Johnsons of the Fuel world a little while to overcome the limitations that this combo would present. .....Tom

Probably only because they are running out of nitro!!!

Ed Fernandez · 04-23-2009, 08:09 PM

Looks like the jelly fish in Glendora gave them back the timing management.It seems like no one wants to work hard to achieve a goal anymore.

Ed F.

joe176 · 04-23-2009, 09:10 PM

They're probably doing this in the hopes of going back to full quarter mile racing.....friends of mine that only know what they see on tv can't corrolate the 1000' times and it just doesn't interest them like it used to when they ran the et's that they were familiar with watching in the full quarter mile.

04-23-2009, 10:07 AM	#1
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Off Topic I know it's not S/SS elated but NHRA is going to test a new engine format for the T/F and F/Cs. Looks like there will be alot of either slow or junk runs for a while till they adapt. 1.) 4.187 Bore 2.) 3.750 Stroke 3.) 7 to 1 Compression 4.) Single 70-gallon fuel pump 5.) 15% overdrive on the blower 6.) No timing management 7.) 350 rear end gear 8.) 90% Nitro Methane limit To my lack of knowledge the biggest hurdle looks like the "no timing management" clause. Maybe a few AA/SA cars will qualify in the short fields. Just a guess,I'll say they will be in the 4.80/295 range in the 1/4.I'm probably way off though. Ed F. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

04-23-2009, 10:45 AM	#2
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Off Topic Why don't they just take the wings off of 'em? That'll slow them down, and it's CHEAP!!! __________________ Bill

04-23-2009, 11:00 AM	#3
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,203 Likes: 1,047 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Off Topic Why not just cut the nitro percentage to 50% MAX, reduce blower over drive, and compression????? OR take one half of the field and start them all at one time at the starting line as usual and the other half of the field and start them all at one time at the finish line and see who can get to the 1/8 mile first.....lol.

04-23-2009, 11:08 AM	#4
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Off Topic X-TECH... I LIKE the way you think!!!! (the eighth-mile deal.... lol!) Bill __________________ Bill

04-23-2009, 11:15 AM	#5
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 751 Likes: 204 Liked 136 Times in 49 Posts	Re: Off Topic That won't work Bill they would just have to peddel them all the time and that would cause them to scatter parts more often.

04-23-2009, 12:37 PM	#6
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Off Topic Not my problem... __________________ Bill

04-23-2009, 04:16 PM	#7
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,468 Likes: 874 Liked 838 Times in 232 Posts	Re: Off Topic Even tho it's not S/SS, or SG ,I find the fact that NHRA is trying to reel in the HP on the fuel cars interesting. ....I rarely enjoy watching the fuel cars at the track because so few of the tracks allow a spectator the proper perspectve to appreciate 300+mph. .........The loss of one pump is significant,altho the 3.50 gear will really help slow them even more,as the nitro cars really dont run well unless they are running against a hard load. .......I like the no timing control deal, any one who thinks a Super class car has too much electronics,has not looked at a modern Fuel car ! ......It should take the Allen Johnsons of the Fuel world a little while to overcome the limitations that this combo would present. .....Tom __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

04-23-2009, 08:09 PM	#9
Ed Fernandez Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NOO JOISEY nexta NOO YAWK Posts: 5,879 Likes: 38 Liked 100 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Off Topic Looks like the jelly fish in Glendora gave them back the timing management.It seems like no one wants to work hard to achieve a goal anymore. Ed F. __________________ Former NHRA #1945 Former IHRA #1945 T/SA

04-23-2009, 09:10 PM	#10
joe176 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NY Posts: 601 Likes: 36 Liked 41 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Off Topic They're probably doing this in the hopes of going back to full quarter mile racing.....friends of mine that only know what they see on tv can't corrolate the 1000' times and it just doesn't interest them like it used to when they ran the et's that they were familiar with watching in the full quarter mile.