A couple of Mopar "legality" questions...??

[cudadoug]

If a guy was goofy enough to try and run something OTHER THAN a 440-6bbl in a 69 Road Runner in Stock or SS, would the glass 6-bbl hood be legal?? The rule book doesn't say about it being original related to the engine combo just as long as it's "as originally produced". I think I've seen a few 70 Cuda shaker hoods on non-Hemi or 6-bbl stockers and I KNOW I have seen a pic of a SS 70 440-bbl Cuda in Div 1 a few years ago with an AAR hood. THAT didn't come that way...

Another question: Rulebook says nothing about SS cars trimming of rear wheelwells (I thought is used to say 2" front and rear...or something like that). My question is would "stretched" (approx 3") openings on a Duster be legal in SS? You HAVE to stretch them in a 66-67 Nova or 68-69 340 or 440 Dart to get a big tire in, right...??

Thanks in advance for your input!

[Philip Saran]

On the 70/71 Cuda shaker hoods, you can run a 340 single 4 bbr AVS
with the shaker hood.

It's my understanding that the 69-1/2 6 pkg hood is only legal for the
440-6 bbr.

I'm sure some else will chime in with more correct info for you.

[Tom Turner]

The way I understand this rule after a long conversation with Bruce Bachelder is that if the hood in question was available from the factory in the year claimed and is "as per OEM" in construction; it's legal. Bruce gave me the impression that he didn't really like this ruling but it came from above. This was almost two years ago but the proliferation in "not really correct" hoods has been obvious since then and I haven't heard of any disqualifications. Remember; the year has to correct. I'd have an L-88 hood on Fred in about ten minutes if that weren't so. TT

[cudadoug]

Yea, I thought that If it was "year correct" it might be legal...or at least "not illegal" reading exactly what's in the rule book.

Which explains why a shaker is allowed on a 70 E-body 340, as it's was only available on 440-6bbl and Hemi cars.

Also explains the TA hood on a certain Red 383 Challenger...

Now, with regards to wheel openings, is this legal? They were stretched approx 3" and the lips are as originally produced...




Thanks again guys!

[Mark Yacavone]

Nobody's going to measure them, if that's what you really want to know.

[cudadoug]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

Nobody's going to measure them, if that's what you really want to know.

Well Mark I didn't think they would, however in the Gen Regs it states that in Stock and SS the forward and rear edges may be trimmed 2", rerolled, blah blah blah...BUT in looking at other Dusters they appear to have done just that, retaining the overall original shape for the most part. These, being stretched in the middle aren't the OEM shape, although nicely done.

I'm going to send the pic to our Div and National Tech Directors and see if I can even get a reply...

Thanks!

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by cudadoug

Yea, I thought that If it was "year correct" it might be legal...or at least "not illegal" reading exactly what's in the rule book.

Which explains why a shaker is allowed on a 70 E-body 340, as it's was only available on 440-6bbl and Hemi cars.

Also explains the TA hood on a certain Red 383 Challenger...

Now, with regards to wheel openings, is this legal? They were stretched approx 3" and the lips are as originally produced...




Thanks again guys!

In 1971 I ordered and raced a new 71 Challenger with a 383 (not a 440-6 pack or Hemi) with a shaker hood direct from the factory . The rules were a lot tighter back then. I dont believe NHRA will allow a 6 pack hood on a non 6 pack engine "road chicken"..

[Jeff Lee]

Originally Posted by cudadoug

Yea, I thought that If it was "year correct" it might be legal...or at least "not illegal" reading exactly what's in the rule book.

Which explains why a shaker is allowed on a 70 E-body 340, as it's was only available on 440-6bbl and Hemi cars.

Also explains the TA hood on a certain Red 383 Challenger...

Now, with regards to wheel openings, is this legal? They were stretched approx 3" and the lips are as originally produced...




Thanks again guys!

You can pick up just about any mopar book and learn which bodies and engines the shakers were available on (code N96 fresh air option). You can find why the T/A hood was not just a T/A engine option and why. If you were really lazy you could contact somebody like Galen Govier (?) and pay him for the information with a break down of production numbers by engine.

[Terry Cain]

Originally Posted by Tom Turner

The way I understand this rule after a long conversation with Bruce Bachelder is that if the hood in question was available from the factory in the year claimed and is "as per OEM" in construction; it's legal. Bruce gave me the impression that he didn't really like this ruling but it came from above. This was almost two years ago but the proliferation in "not really correct" hoods has been obvious since then and I haven't heard of any disqualifications. Remember; the year has to correct. I'd have an L-88 hood on Fred in about ten minutes if that weren't so. TT

Tom,
Are you saying I can run a L-88 hood on my 68 or 69 Vette?

[Travis Miller]

Originally Posted by cudadoug

If a guy was goofy enough to try and run something OTHER THAN a 440-6bbl in a 69 Road Runner in Stock or SS, would the glass 6-bbl hood be legal??

I think I've seen a few 70 Cuda shaker hoods on non-Hemi or 6-bbl stockers and I KNOW I have seen a pic of a SS 70 440-bbl Cuda in Div 1 a few years ago with an AAR hood.

Another question: Rulebook says nothing about SS cars trimming of rear wheelwells (I thought is used to say 2" front and rear...or something like that).

Answers in order are:

1) No
2) Yes they are allowed
3) See page 272 paragraph 7:3 of the 2009 NHRA rulebook (fenders also mean 1/4 panel)

Travis

PS. No Terry, you do not get the L88 hood on your Corvette unless you put the correct L88 engine beneath it.