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Old 07-25-2011, 10:38 AM   #1
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Angry What would your Div director do ?

My friend Marion Stephenson asked me to post this.

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1st pair out 1st rd of Super Stock Div. 3 Columbus,last weekend.
Marions tree does not have the 1st yellow bulb come on, but he leaves on the bottom bulb, has a 017 light, but because the tree didn't count down thinks he is late.
Doesn't drive the top end like he would have if the tree would have counted down correctly. he is thinking I'm late & lost to Stokes .
Does to Div.3 dir. and askes for a rerun, Jay says because he had a good light [by accident] NO rerun.

the car behind him saw that the tree didn't count down right and shutoff till they fixed the tree [new bube]
What do you think your Div director would have done ?

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Old 07-25-2011, 10:49 AM   #2
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Jay made the right call.
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:02 AM   #3
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Jay made the right call.
Agree..........
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Old 07-25-2011, 11:24 AM   #4
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Does to Div.3 dir. and askes for a rerun, Jay says because he had a good light [by accident] NO rerun.
So he's saying that if he had been late, then it would've been a re-run? How late would be late enough to warrant a re-run, then? If the top bulb had worked, would he have been red, the same, or later? There is no way to answer that question.

Of course the opposite argument can be made: Had he won the round, would he still have wanted a re-run?

In my opinion, the answer to the re-run question should be the same regardless of who was involved or what the outcome of the race was. The tree malfunctioned, the race should be re-run. Somebody's going to be mad, regardless of how it plays out.


I had a deal at a local bracket race where they had CrossTalk on for Footbrake by mistake. I was the faster car, and got the crosstalk tree. I was late, but still won the round. They made us re-run, even though the winning car was the only one affected by the crosstalk. In retrospect, they did the right thing, because who's to say I wouldn't have been red if the tree had come down correctly?
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Old 07-25-2011, 12:02 PM   #5
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Beard is right!
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Old 07-25-2011, 12:07 PM   #6
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Beard is right! Jim



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Old 07-25-2011, 12:09 PM   #7
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Re-run either way.
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Old 07-25-2011, 12:19 PM   #8
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Seems that the cold hard fact of a Malfunction should be the deciding factor. A good light, a bad light, a "relatively" good light wouldnt seem to matter. Re Run would seem in order on the basis of Malfunction unrelated to "subjective" evaluation of et, rx etc.
Micheal, it shouldnt have been up to him to "want " a rerun. Tower should have ruled based on what happened with the tree, nothing more.

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Old 07-25-2011, 12:38 PM   #9
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IHRA race in Jackson S.C. yesterday in the final I ran Everette Keesley. Lights came down score board on my side went to all zeros and his W came on. I had RT. 60FT and 330 and 000 at the stripe.He ran out 3 and I had a better light. My 330 time show I was going dead on to possiably .005 under. Since my side did not record a time we had to re-run. It worked out for me but neither one of us was very excited about having to re-run but what else would they have done? I guess it all comes down to the circumstance and how much information the director has to make the decision on a re-run and all malfunctions are not them same.

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Old 07-25-2011, 12:41 PM   #10
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Seems that the cold hard fact of a Malfunction should be the deciding factor. A good light, a bad light, a "relatively" good light wouldnt seem to matter. Re Run would seem in order on the basis of Malfunction unrelated to "subjective" evaluation of et, rx etc.
Micheal, it shouldnt have been up to him to "want " a rerun. Tower should have ruled based on what happened with the tree, nothing more.
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