Kurt Johnson got SCREWED!

Ed Wright · 07-30-2012, 08:32 AM

Could you believe no re-run? What a deal!

KEN BUGAJ · 07-30-2012, 09:12 AM

X-2

bobbyd6 · 07-30-2012, 09:16 AM

I posted that on NHRA's facebook page & they deleted my post!!! graham Light is an IDIOT!!! he didnt even have a good excuse/response made no sense!!

nssracer · 07-30-2012, 09:28 AM

What happened?

Kenny Wigington · 07-30-2012, 09:56 AM

Their set up sucked. You could see KJ didnt move before the red came on, but it looked to me like Vinnie did, and might have been red, himself.

Crew Chief · 07-30-2012, 10:24 AM

The guard beam caught him. At National events ONLY there is a third beam and it is out past the stage beam. If anything on the car goes into the guard beam before the car clears the stage beam, it will cause a redlight. Kurt admitted the 60 ft was wrong.

Graham screwed up by talking about things other than the guard beam. It made him look like he was not sure what happened. All Graham needed to say was the guard beam caught Kurt and that would have been the end of the conversation.

C and W Racing · 07-30-2012, 10:41 AM

The 60' was messed up because the timers started and the car wasn't moving. Vinnie did go red, Kurt never moved until after Vinnie. In my opinion there should not have been a rerun, Kurt should have been declared the winner. Glitch in the system, yes, Vinnie still clearly left first and went red.
Chuck

Ed Wright · 07-30-2012, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C and W Racing

The 60' was messed up because the timers started and the car wasn't moving. Vinnie did go red, Kurt never moved until after Vinnie. In my opinion there should not have been a rerun, Kurt should have been declared the winner. Glitch in the system, yes, Vinnie still clearly left first and went red.
Chuck

I agree. Kurt Did not move first. Vinnie did. Very clear. Kurt said his car was 1/8" high. Something blow through the guard beam? Who knows. Kurt should have been declared the winner.

Bill Koski · 07-30-2012, 10:56 AM

Once that can of worms was opened it would be chaos every time somebody thought something odd happened.

Mike Carr · 07-30-2012, 11:16 AM

I had the same thing happen to me a few times with the HF/SA car I raced. Billy put a new header on, and I had to keep the front tires pumped up to keep the header from triggering the beam. Sometimes I'd get a bad redlight, even before I moved (like Kurt's deal). My RT would be off three tenths, and my ET the same amount. Pretty sure this is what happened to Kurt--something interupted the beams and he got a redlight without moving.

Vince's -.006 red could have been a reaction to seeing Kurt's redlight.

I almost never agree with Graham "Dim" Light, but in this case, they were correct. Not enough hard evidence to warrant a re-run.

Still sucks for Kurt. I imagine they will go over the front of the car with a fine tooth comb and eliminate anything that could possibly trip the beam and cause this to happen again.

07-30-2012, 08:32 AM	#1
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! Could you believe no re-run? What a deal! __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

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KEN BUGAJ Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: LEXINGTON NC. Posts: 389 Likes: 43 Liked 18 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! X-2

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bobbyd6 Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cozad, Nebraska Posts: 310 Likes: 339 Liked 92 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! I posted that on NHRA's facebook page & they deleted my post!!! graham Light is an IDIOT!!! he didnt even have a good excuse/response made no sense!! __________________ Bobby Devine

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Kenny Wigington Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cumming,Ga. USA Posts: 967 Likes: 36 Liked 60 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! Their set up sucked. You could see KJ didnt move before the red came on, but it looked to me like Vinnie did, and might have been red, himself. __________________ 2894 STK

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Crew Chief Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 184 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! The guard beam caught him. At National events ONLY there is a third beam and it is out past the stage beam. If anything on the car goes into the guard beam before the car clears the stage beam, it will cause a redlight. Kurt admitted the 60 ft was wrong. Graham screwed up by talking about things other than the guard beam. It made him look like he was not sure what happened. All Graham needed to say was the guard beam caught Kurt and that would have been the end of the conversation. Last edited by Crew Chief; 07-30-2012 at 10:32 AM.

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C and W Racing Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 557 Likes: 6 Liked 13 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! The 60' was messed up because the timers started and the car wasn't moving. Vinnie did go red, Kurt never moved until after Vinnie. In my opinion there should not have been a rerun, Kurt should have been declared the winner. Glitch in the system, yes, Vinnie still clearly left first and went red. Chuck

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Bill Koski Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 213 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! Once that can of worms was opened it would be chaos every time somebody thought something odd happened.

07-30-2012, 11:16 AM	#10
Mike Carr VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Enon Valley PA Posts: 1,650 Likes: 234 Liked 83 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Kurt Johnson got SCREWED! I had the same thing happen to me a few times with the HF/SA car I raced. Billy put a new header on, and I had to keep the front tires pumped up to keep the header from triggering the beam. Sometimes I'd get a bad redlight, even before I moved (like Kurt's deal). My RT would be off three tenths, and my ET the same amount. Pretty sure this is what happened to Kurt--something interupted the beams and he got a redlight without moving. Vince's -.006 red could have been a reaction to seeing Kurt's redlight. I almost never agree with Graham "Dim" Light, but in this case, they were correct. Not enough hard evidence to warrant a re-run. Still sucks for Kurt. I imagine they will go over the front of the car with a fine tooth comb and eliminate anything that could possibly trip the beam and cause this to happen again. __________________ Mike Carr, Tri-State S/SS Association President Looking for 2015 S/SS Race Sponsors Contact me if interested buffdaddy_1302@hotmail.com (724) 510-5912