National Opens and AHFS

james schaechter · 01-12-2013, 04:28 PM

Looks like the Opens could be interesting. It would be a great case to show off and set the record for some of the half track cars! They could have a real battle for a national record or no. 1 qualifier. It would have to be a COPO, CJ, and Drag Pak playground!
Maybe it will help some car counts at the National Opens.
As nauseating the factors are for some of these cars, at least we can see a full throttle run or two! That would be pretty cool.

jmantle · 01-12-2013, 04:48 PM

I really don't agree with this, if you are allowed to set records, the AHFS should apply.

jmcarter · 01-12-2013, 04:49 PM

Only so many Carey Bales 'types' (WOT)...suspect they will still not show their cards. But will be interesting at least and you're right that it may help car counts.

B Parker · 01-12-2013, 05:04 PM

JMantle No disrespect but I don't agree with the AHFS at all!!! With half my brain tied behind my back I could do a better job with HP factors than that. I'm glad us guys that know what we are doing have spent a little money and have worked hard for years now have a place where we can let it hang without the fear of getting hp. And lets face it. Air like they had at the dutch last year can ruin a combo that has a factor already close. I don't think there are many combos out there that couldn't run at least 1.20 under those type of conditions. Barry

jmantle · 01-12-2013, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by B Parker

JMantle No disrespect but I don't agree with the AHFS at all!!! With half my brain tied behind my back I could do a better job with HP factors than that. I'm glad us guys that know what we are doing have spent a little money and have worked hard for years now have a place where we can let it hang without the fear of getting hp. And lets face it. Air like they had at the dutch last year can ruin a combo that has a factor already close. I don't think there are many combos out there that couldn't run at least 1.20 under those type of conditions. Barry

I agree the AHFS is far from perfect but that's all we have. One good thing that could come out of this is it will expose some of the 1000 footers who just can't resist.
Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

Ed Wright · 01-12-2013, 06:35 PM

We need Farmer!!

Pistol Pete · 01-12-2013, 07:10 PM

I think at the Opens they should be allowed to go all out with no penalty.
My car & i'm sure other small block carb motors Run sooo much better in cool air
then they can run in 90 degree humid air.

On the other hand, the new cars probably can run better then the older cars in any air.

I do not think New or Old Cars should get penalized at the Opens.

There are enough races during the year where these new cars can get H.P. from anyway.

Just my .03 cents

david ring · 01-12-2013, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pistol Pete

I think at the Opens they should be allowed to go all out with no penalty.

That's the case in comp!

ALMACK · 01-12-2013, 08:11 PM

I would imagine the tech guys will be super busy at the teardown barn at those national opens.

Still, it will be fun to watch some racers hang it all out.

Randall Klein · 01-12-2013, 08:16 PM

They wouldn't observe these runs, oh say just for fun, then make some adjustments in a couple of years as is their perogative.....just "trust" us......turn them loose....have some fun boys

.....nah

01-12-2013, 04:28 PM	#1
james schaechter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,988 Likes: 1,289 Liked 1,428 Times in 296 Posts	National Opens and AHFS Looks like the Opens could be interesting. It would be a great case to show off and set the record for some of the half track cars! They could have a real battle for a national record or no. 1 qualifier. It would have to be a COPO, CJ, and Drag Pak playground! Maybe it will help some car counts at the National Opens. As nauseating the factors are for some of these cars, at least we can see a full throttle run or two! That would be pretty cool. __________________ James Schaechter 3163 STK

01-12-2013, 04:48 PM	#2
jmantle Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Black Creek, BC Canada Posts: 331 Likes: 79 Liked 172 Times in 81 Posts	Re: National Opens and AHFS I really don't agree with this, if you are allowed to set records, the AHFS should apply.

01-12-2013, 04:49 PM	#3
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,296 Likes: 2,383 Liked 3,180 Times in 972 Posts	Re: National Opens and AHFS Only so many Carey Bales 'types' (WOT)...suspect they will still not show their cards. But will be interesting at least and you're right that it may help car counts. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock Set another place at the table

01-12-2013, 05:04 PM	#4
B Parker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 849 Likes: 980 Liked 2,336 Times in 464 Posts	Re: National Opens and AHFS JMantle No disrespect but I don't agree with the AHFS at all!!! With half my brain tied behind my back I could do a better job with HP factors than that. I'm glad us guys that know what we are doing have spent a little money and have worked hard for years now have a place where we can let it hang without the fear of getting hp. And lets face it. Air like they had at the dutch last year can ruin a combo that has a factor already close. I don't think there are many combos out there that couldn't run at least 1.20 under those type of conditions. Barry

01-12-2013, 06:35 PM	#6
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: National Opens and AHFS We need Farmer!! __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

01-12-2013, 07:10 PM	#7
Pistol Pete VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Punta Gorda Isles, Fl. Posts: 1,627 Likes: 3,408 Liked 779 Times in 209 Posts	Re: National Opens and AHFS I think at the Opens they should be allowed to go all out with no penalty. My car & i'm sure other small block carb motors Run sooo much better in cool air then they can run in 90 degree humid air. On the other hand, the new cars probably can run better then the older cars in any air. I do not think New or Old Cars should get penalized at the Opens. There are enough races during the year where these new cars can get H.P. from anyway. Just my .03 cents __________________ "Pistol" Pete Dutko

01-12-2013, 08:11 PM	#9
ALMACK VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 1,937 Likes: 131 Liked 369 Times in 127 Posts	Re: National Opens and AHFS I would imagine the tech guys will be super busy at the teardown barn at those national opens. Still, it will be fun to watch some racers hang it all out. __________________ Alan Mackin Stock 3777/ SS 3377 P/SA & SS/PA Fox Thunderbird I/PS '95 Mustang GT

01-12-2013, 08:16 PM	#10
Randall Klein Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 785 Likes: 45 Liked 316 Times in 67 Posts	Re: National Opens and AHFS They wouldn't observe these runs, oh say just for fun, then make some adjustments in a couple of years as is their perogative.....just "trust" us......turn them loose....have some fun boys .....nah