396 super stock engine developtment

Bill the Announcer · 09-26-2014, 11:18 AM

Hi again! We are in the planning phase of our new venture into the super stock ranks, this question is about how competitive the 375 hp 396 combo is, we have a good selection of castings for a motor like this, and were wondering about the pro's and cons (extra weight?) or higher class? with our car, the former Yves Perigny 69 camaro convertible.
Any insight would be welcomed, the choices are a bit overwhelming at the moment!
Bill

Greg Hill · 09-26-2014, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill the Announcer

Hi again! We are in the planning phase of our new venture into the super stock ranks, this question is about how competitive the 375 hp 396 combo is, we have a good selection of castings for a motor like this, and were wondering about the pro's and cons (extra weight?) or higher class? with our car, the former Yves Perigny 69 camaro convertible.
Any insight would be welcomed, the choices are a bit overwhelming at the moment!
Bill

It just depends on how much you want to spend. I can see a SS 396-375 motor costing between 30 and 40k if you want to run decent and I'm not talking about a 1.20 under motor.

Mark Howes · 09-26-2014, 05:37 PM

Bill

I'm sure you will get lots of opinions but I will give you one more. Seeing as you are in Canada I'd be calling the Armstrong brothers. They have proven to be one of the best with the BBC and are right here in Canada. They are honest and fair. If you have any other questions feel free to reach out

Mark

FINESPLINE · 09-26-2014, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Howes

Bill

I'm sure you will get lots of opinions but I will give you one more. Seeing as you are in Canada I'd be calling the Armstrong brothers. They have proven to be one of the best with the BBC and are right here in Canada. They are honest and fair. If you have any other questions feel free to reach out

Mark

Great advice !

Alan Roehrich · 09-26-2014, 06:19 PM

Run the 401 aluminum head, the cast iron heads are way more trouble.

My 396/375 runs around 0.9 under (9.45-9.50 in SS/EA) at over 142 MPH, with Kevin Cradduck driving. We have not had time to sort it out. The car had severe 4 link problems, it went that quick with a 1.34 60' time, and it should have a 60' time around 1.22-1.24. The 4 link has been repaired, and we've updated the engine. We go to the dyno again in about 3 weeks. My engine has Jimmy Bridges heads, intake, and Quick Fuel carburetor, on my shortblock. It is not a max effort engine. It's in an old school 69 Camaro that belongs to Scot LaMar.

SStockDart · 09-26-2014, 06:40 PM

The 69 Convertible is a natural SS/G car....Many believe that you can run it is "E" but it doesn't fit. IMO, your car is not a good fit with the 375 HP engine....I would look into the 325.

davidhuff · 09-26-2014, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg Hill

It just depends on how much you want to spend. I can see a SS 396-375 motor costing between 30 and 40k if you want to run decent and I'm not talking about a 1.20 under motor.

WOW,how in the world could a 396 SS motor cost $40,000.00?

Alan Roehrich · 09-27-2014, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by davidhuff

WOW,how in the world could a 396 SS motor cost $40,000.00?

As Burt Reynolds said in Smokey and the Bandit, speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?

I can show you where the money goes.

You pay for a lot more than parts and labor, you pay for what people spent years learning.

Ed Carpenter · 09-27-2014, 12:53 AM

Wow my first engine a 327/275 engine I paid 7500.00 for and went a best of -.78 under. Not lighting the world on fire but not bad for the money I spent.

Jim Cimarolli · 09-28-2014, 02:46 PM

Looking at this from the point of:
You have a pretty good old stocker motor laying around. Put a roller and a good manifold on it. Engine should make enough power to create an entry level SS car. I'm talking about 2 to 3 tenths under, and there are not a whole bunch of cars in those classes, SS/EA, and SS/FA.

09-26-2014, 11:18 AM	#1
Bill the Announcer Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Kitchener Ontario Canada Posts: 6 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	396 super stock engine developtment Hi again! We are in the planning phase of our new venture into the super stock ranks, this question is about how competitive the 375 hp 396 combo is, we have a good selection of castings for a motor like this, and were wondering about the pro's and cons (extra weight?) or higher class? with our car, the former Yves Perigny 69 camaro convertible. Any insight would be welcomed, the choices are a bit overwhelming at the moment! Bill

09-26-2014, 05:37 PM	#3
Mark Howes Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Saint John, NB Canada Posts: 126 Likes: 346 Liked 80 Times in 28 Posts	Re: 396 super stock engine developtment Bill I'm sure you will get lots of opinions but I will give you one more. Seeing as you are in Canada I'd be calling the Armstrong brothers. They have proven to be one of the best with the BBC and are right here in Canada. They are honest and fair. If you have any other questions feel free to reach out Mark

09-26-2014, 06:19 PM	#5
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,097 Likes: 1,542 Liked 1,775 Times in 404 Posts	Re: 396 super stock engine developtment Run the 401 aluminum head, the cast iron heads are way more trouble. My 396/375 runs around 0.9 under (9.45-9.50 in SS/EA) at over 142 MPH, with Kevin Cradduck driving. We have not had time to sort it out. The car had severe 4 link problems, it went that quick with a 1.34 60' time, and it should have a 60' time around 1.22-1.24. The 4 link has been repaired, and we've updated the engine. We go to the dyno again in about 3 weeks. My engine has Jimmy Bridges heads, intake, and Quick Fuel carburetor, on my shortblock. It is not a max effort engine. It's in an old school 69 Camaro that belongs to Scot LaMar. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

09-26-2014, 06:40 PM	#6
SStockDart VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Arizona, Texan forever Posts: 1,176 Likes: 876 Liked 574 Times in 212 Posts	Re: 396 super stock engine developtment The 69 Convertible is a natural SS/G car....Many believe that you can run it is "E" but it doesn't fit. IMO, your car is not a good fit with the 375 HP engine....I would look into the 325. __________________ Gary Hansen - SS/FA 4911, B/SA 4911

09-27-2014, 12:53 AM	#9
Ed Carpenter Live Reporter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Dripping Springs, Tx Posts: 2,709 Likes: 186 Liked 520 Times in 132 Posts	Re: 396 super stock engine developtment Wow my first engine a 327/275 engine I paid 7500.00 for and went a best of -.78 under. Not lighting the world on fire but not bad for the money I spent. __________________ Ed Carpenter 2005 Chevy Cobalt A/SM Race Engine Development

09-28-2014, 02:46 PM	#10
Jim Cimarolli Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sulphur Springs Texas Posts: 742 Likes: 144 Liked 166 Times in 46 Posts	Re: 396 super stock engine developtment Looking at this from the point of: You have a pretty good old stocker motor laying around. Put a roller and a good manifold on it. Engine should make enough power to create an entry level SS car. I'm talking about 2 to 3 tenths under, and there are not a whole bunch of cars in those classes, SS/EA, and SS/FA.