NHRA regulates off track behavior.........

Bob Mulry · 02-18-2015, 01:01 PM

This was posted in the Lounge Area, but I think ALL NHRA members should know their rights are being taken away......

This regulates away from track behavior....

http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...294#post462294

Take a look and think about it........

Bob

Mark Yacavone · 02-18-2015, 01:35 PM

I was asked to post this last night, but I declined,,...seeing that it was about a TV show that I know or care nothing (ZERO) about... but anyway, here it is:

http://www.dragzine.com/news/street-...se-suspension/

Dwight Southerland · 02-18-2015, 01:46 PM

Representing this as "their rights are being taken away" is a distortion. Nobody's rights are being threatened by NHRA's action. The racer in this incident can still carry on his life as he wishes even if it includes continuing to participate in illegal street racing. However, it is not a right to belong to NHRA, race at an NHRA event, or participate in the NHRA in any way. Private organizations do this kind of action all the time. Ask Michael Vick, Ray Rice, Pete Rose, Mike Tyson or any other of the many sports figures whose activities in their private life has affected their role in their respective sports organizations. I'm with NHRA on this one.

njk53 · 02-18-2015, 01:59 PM

I always thought the shows on TV that show so called illegal street racing were staged events with the local authorities having full knowledge as to what is going on. I can't believe you can bring in a production crew from the Discovery Channel, have all of those people and race cars gathered about without attracting law enforcement like flies on garbage. They do race on the street but the roads are secured so someone can't wander into the race area. Maybe it is the perception of being illegal is what the NHRA doesn't like.

Jeff Stout · 02-18-2015, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njk53

I always thought the shows on TV that show so called illegal street racing were staged events with the local authorities having full knowledge as to what is going on. I can't believe you can bring in a production crew from the Discovery Channel, have all of those people and race cars gathered about without attracting law enforcement like flies on garbage. They do race on the street but the roads are secured so someone can't wander into the race area. Maybe it is the perception of being illegal is what the NHRA doesn't like.

^^This is correct 100%

Lyn Smith · 02-18-2015, 02:32 PM

In the segment that had the Ok. guys racing the Chicago guys, it sure looked like they were racing on the street just north of the RT 66 track.Why doesnt NHRA get involved and offer the street guys some nice, safe track to race on.In my opinion it would be alot more entertaining if 75% of the races were not decided by someone going up in smoke,jumping the flashlight,(when is he going to get run over?),or getting real loose down track!!!Let the fastest car really win.

SSGT Mustang · 02-18-2015, 02:41 PM

NHRA screws up a lot, but this is not one of those times. I think that it's kind of refreshing to see an organization actually take a stand against something that is in total conflict with its founding principles.

Regardless that the whole thing is staged, or whatever, it's the idea of street racing and glorifying it that seems to be the issue.

I think the show is just stupid. I certainly can't watch it or any of other show like it. There's plenty of idiotic kids out there already racing on the street thinking that it's cool and trying to live some douchebag fantasy. I think that the last thing anybody needs is to encourage more of the same.

Kudos to NHRA.

Chris1529 · 02-18-2015, 02:43 PM

The first line of the paragraph in the letter where they are citing the rulebook clearly states " Participants at events...."

To me, the clear intent of that rule is when you are participating AT an "NHRA" event.
That is a big stretch to apply the rules in that paragraph to anything a member does when they aren't at an event. I agree that rights are being taken away here.

SSGT Mustang · 02-18-2015, 02:57 PM

It's not a right. It's a privilege. Just like a driver's license, which is also not a right, meaning it can be taken away from you at any time.

CMcAllister · 02-18-2015, 03:32 PM

I'm with NHRA on this one. Of course the show is staged and made for TV, but the average person, lounging on the sofa watching, may not know that. You want to participate in this "show"? Take the NHRA identification, numbers, etc. off the car. I don't want to be associated with this stupidity either.

02-18-2015, 01:01 PM	#1
Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,016 Likes: 57 Liked 320 Times in 102 Posts	NHRA regulates off track behavior......... This was posted in the Lounge Area, but I think ALL NHRA members should know their rights are being taken away...... This regulates away from track behavior.... http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...294#post462294 Take a look and think about it........ Bob __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports

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Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,795 Likes: 2,886 Liked 5,087 Times in 1,938 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... I was asked to post this last night, but I declined,,...seeing that it was about a TV show that I know or care nothing (ZERO) about... but anyway, here it is: http://www.dragzine.com/news/street-...se-suspension/ __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

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Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 1,999 Likes: 63 Liked 772 Times in 192 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... Representing this as "their rights are being taken away" is a distortion. Nobody's rights are being threatened by NHRA's action. The racer in this incident can still carry on his life as he wishes even if it includes continuing to participate in illegal street racing. However, it is not a right to belong to NHRA, race at an NHRA event, or participate in the NHRA in any way. Private organizations do this kind of action all the time. Ask Michael Vick, Ray Rice, Pete Rose, Mike Tyson or any other of the many sports figures whose activities in their private life has affected their role in their respective sports organizations. I'm with NHRA on this one. __________________

02-18-2015, 01:59 PM	#4
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... I always thought the shows on TV that show so called illegal street racing were staged events with the local authorities having full knowledge as to what is going on. I can't believe you can bring in a production crew from the Discovery Channel, have all of those people and race cars gathered about without attracting law enforcement like flies on garbage. They do race on the street but the roads are secured so someone can't wander into the race area. Maybe it is the perception of being illegal is what the NHRA doesn't like. __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345

02-18-2015, 02:32 PM	#6
Lyn Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pontiac,il. Posts: 1,194 Likes: 274 Liked 950 Times in 189 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... In the segment that had the Ok. guys racing the Chicago guys, it sure looked like they were racing on the street just north of the RT 66 track.Why doesnt NHRA get involved and offer the street guys some nice, safe track to race on.In my opinion it would be alot more entertaining if 75% of the races were not decided by someone going up in smoke,jumping the flashlight,(when is he going to get run over?),or getting real loose down track!!!Let the fastest car really win. Last edited by Lyn Smith; 02-18-2015 at 03:20 PM.

02-18-2015, 02:41 PM	#7
SSGT Mustang Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey Posts: 359 Likes: 35 Liked 204 Times in 54 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... NHRA screws up a lot, but this is not one of those times. I think that it's kind of refreshing to see an organization actually take a stand against something that is in total conflict with its founding principles. Regardless that the whole thing is staged, or whatever, it's the idea of street racing and glorifying it that seems to be the issue. I think the show is just stupid. I certainly can't watch it or any of other show like it. There's plenty of idiotic kids out there already racing on the street thinking that it's cool and trying to live some douchebag fantasy. I think that the last thing anybody needs is to encourage more of the same. Kudos to NHRA.

02-18-2015, 02:43 PM	#8
Chris1529 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 1,366 Likes: 6 Liked 70 Times in 29 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... The first line of the paragraph in the letter where they are citing the rulebook clearly states " Participants at events...." To me, the clear intent of that rule is when you are participating AT an "NHRA" event. That is a big stretch to apply the rules in that paragraph to anything a member does when they aren't at an event. I agree that rights are being taken away here. __________________ Chris Bowman The Mountain State Mustang 1984 Mustang GT350 Last edited by Chris1529; 02-18-2015 at 03:20 PM.

02-18-2015, 02:57 PM	#9
SSGT Mustang Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey Posts: 359 Likes: 35 Liked 204 Times in 54 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... It's not a right. It's a privilege. Just like a driver's license, which is also not a right, meaning it can be taken away from you at any time.

02-18-2015, 03:32 PM	#10
CMcAllister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fulton County, PA Posts: 604 Likes: 15 Liked 891 Times in 249 Posts	Re: NHRA regulates off track behavior......... I'm with NHRA on this one. Of course the show is staged and made for TV, but the average person, lounging on the sofa watching, may not know that. You want to participate in this "show"? Take the NHRA identification, numbers, etc. off the car. I don't want to be associated with this stupidity either.