trans cooler

dwg4859 · 03-21-2015, 08:38 AM

Do I run a transmission cooler and if so where do I put it when I bought the transmission the lines were just a tube from one port to the other.

FireSale · 03-21-2015, 11:23 AM

Yes and anywhere it will fit. They are small. Mine is just attached to the front of the radiator with stainless steel zip ties. Putting a temp sender and gauge in is a good idea, too. I don't know what trans you have, but a lot of us have several thousand tied up in a competition built automatic and it's next to know what's going on in there. Mine came with a cooler from TCI. Performance Automatic includes them with their builds too, I believe. Cheap insurance.

Dale

Ed Wright · 03-21-2015, 11:54 AM

Both my Rossler and Pro Trans are bypassed internally. Plugs in the holes where the fittings go.

HandOverFist · 03-21-2015, 12:27 PM

I don't see the need in my application. Short duration and plenty of time between rounds...just another piece of equipment to fail or worry with.

dwg4859 · 03-21-2015, 12:31 PM

its a 200 metric in a hsa nova i just bought it going from the 350.

HandOverFist · 03-21-2015, 01:05 PM

Mine is as well.

GTX JOHN · 03-21-2015, 05:38 PM

Nothing in our stock super stock cars but a loop of tubing.
This is how ProTrans ships them and they are the builders.

In our bracket cars that run back to back a bunch of the time in Vegas.......
we run a decent to large one in front of radiator on every car!

ATI Performance Products · 03-21-2015, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dwg4859

Do I run a transmission cooler and if so where do I put it when I bought the transmission the lines were just a tube from one port to the other.

We run one on the Challenger since the 904 is small and light with all aluminum parts. I don't need it at the races (except when I went a few rounds in a row at some shortened races) but when we are testing the Challenger can run 5+ passes in a row, and the trans will get to 200+. The Super F Synthetic fluid over Conventional Type F gets us that far as with regular non synthetic it was 200 after 3 passes. I have the cooler mounted under the car, facing the ground and it has a fan on it. Its the Derale "atomic" cool that we stock.

I don't have a cooler in the COPO since we can't cool the engine and blower off fast enough to worry about it, and its a T400 with more capacity.

You can be bybassed in the pump and just plug holes as mentioned or loop the lines. I keep a loop on the COPO so I can monitor cooler pressure.

Alan Roehrich · 03-21-2015, 08:08 PM

I have never liked the internal bypass, ours have a small loop of tubing. I replaced an internal bypass pump with regular pump and an external bypass and dropped 4% slippage with an ATI 8" converter. Haven't run an internal bypass since.

Kegracing · 03-21-2015, 09:54 PM

Do you plan on winning?
Not trying to be a smart butt. Most time trials and early rounds of stock/super stock have plenty of time to cool everything... sometimes a single round in a day.
However, if you plan on winning, then often the final 2 or 3 rounds are rushed, round robin, get it over.
Is a really bad feeling to get that far, that close, and have a trans hot and change your reaction time and or time slip...? It happens.
I ran without a cooler a few years ago, after having a rubber line on the barbed fitting leak in the waterbox at a divisional race in my 10.90 car. Thought it was the one less thing to go wrong or worry about. Then I lost a race when trans was hot and cost me a few hundreds in a final... stock metric 200 pans do not hold much fluid...
Now I run one of the Jegs' coolers, part # 60351 I think. I put AN fittings on it, and all braided line. Very little chance of this style cooler leaking or getting damaged. This along with synthetic fluid keeps things very consistent. Extends trans life also. Just my nickle worth of experience over the years.

Good luck.
Ken

Stock 412

03-21-2015, 08:38 AM	#1
dwg4859 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: oklahoma Posts: 33 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	trans cooler Do I run a transmission cooler and if so where do I put it when I bought the transmission the lines were just a tube from one port to the other.

03-21-2015, 11:23 AM	#2
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 237 Times in 126 Posts	Re: trans cooler Yes and anywhere it will fit. They are small. Mine is just attached to the front of the radiator with stainless steel zip ties. Putting a temp sender and gauge in is a good idea, too. I don't know what trans you have, but a lot of us have several thousand tied up in a competition built automatic and it's next to know what's going on in there. Mine came with a cooler from TCI. Performance Automatic includes them with their builds too, I believe. Cheap insurance. Dale

03-21-2015, 11:54 AM	#3
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 389 Times in 169 Posts	Re: trans cooler Both my Rossler and Pro Trans are bypassed internally. Plugs in the holes where the fittings go. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

03-21-2015, 12:27 PM	#4
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: trans cooler I don't see the need in my application. Short duration and plenty of time between rounds...just another piece of equipment to fail or worry with. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

03-21-2015, 12:31 PM	#5
dwg4859 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: oklahoma Posts: 33 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: trans cooler its a 200 metric in a hsa nova i just bought it going from the 350.

03-21-2015, 01:05 PM	#6
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,651 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: trans cooler Mine is as well. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

03-21-2015, 05:38 PM	#7
GTX JOHN VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Boulder City, Nevada 89005 Posts: 2,708 Likes: 2,733 Liked 2,398 Times in 679 Posts	Re: trans cooler Nothing in our stock super stock cars but a loop of tubing. This is how ProTrans ships them and they are the builders. In our bracket cars that run back to back a bunch of the time in Vegas....... we run a decent to large one in front of radiator on every car! __________________ John Irving 741 Stock 741 Super Stock

03-21-2015, 08:08 PM	#9
Alan Roehrich Veteran Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 5,066 Likes: 1,486 Liked 1,630 Times in 378 Posts	Re: trans cooler I have never liked the internal bypass, ours have a small loop of tubing. I replaced an internal bypass pump with regular pump and an external bypass and dropped 4% slippage with an ATI 8" converter. Haven't run an internal bypass since. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

03-21-2015, 09:54 PM	#10
Kegracing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Red Oak, TX Posts: 441 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: trans cooler Do you plan on winning? Not trying to be a smart butt. Most time trials and early rounds of stock/super stock have plenty of time to cool everything... sometimes a single round in a day. However, if you plan on winning, then often the final 2 or 3 rounds are rushed, round robin, get it over. Is a really bad feeling to get that far, that close, and have a trans hot and change your reaction time and or time slip...? It happens. I ran without a cooler a few years ago, after having a rubber line on the barbed fitting leak in the waterbox at a divisional race in my 10.90 car. Thought it was the one less thing to go wrong or worry about. Then I lost a race when trans was hot and cost me a few hundreds in a final... stock metric 200 pans do not hold much fluid... Now I run one of the Jegs' coolers, part # 60351 I think. I put AN fittings on it, and all braided line. Very little chance of this style cooler leaking or getting damaged. This along with synthetic fluid keeps things very consistent. Extends trans life also. Just my nickle worth of experience over the years. Good luck. Ken Stock 412