The future of Stock & Super Stock

[Bob Mulry]

Hi All,


I just came across this quote on the Division 7 web site regarding the racing at the National Open at Sears Point.

"Stock/SS combo will also feature no heads up racing (if two cars in same class - they will dial in). "

Is NHRA just testing us to find out how far they can push before we start pushing back?

Entry is ONLY $150.00 for a bracket race to win $1000.00 sounds like good deal to me?

Let me move on to the LODRS race at Sears Point.

It looks as if the person who set up the run schedule has never been a racer, much less ever attended a drag race of any kind.

Let's see 1 run on Friday and 2 runs on Saturday for Stock. So let's take a look at setting a record at this event. First sub record run on Friday, wait until Saturday to back it up, pull the engine down Saturday night and race the eliminator Sunday morning.

What happened to 2 runs or more on Friday, 2 runs or more on Saturday and race the eliminator on Sunday?

Do have too many cars or the wrong cars at LODRS events?

I guess this is ALL a test to see how far we will stoup over before they bend us over?

It just looks like they want to have bracket races ONLY?

Is this the NEW & IMPROVED NHRA?

Is this Wally's dream?

Is this a preview of the future?

Is this a bunch of bull****?

Bob

[Keith Lynch]

Bob, I think its the latter. No, its definitely the latter!! Remember Bob, racing NHRA is like getting married......... shut up and do what your told. Keith

[Bill Edgeworth]

Hi Bob,

Same situation in Division Six, the last two of our national opens had no heads up, no fuel check and no scales.

[Andys dad]

I heard they only got in 1 round of stock at the open at Sonoma today. I was told it was a real screwed up mess. Only hear say - I was not there.

Hope they can improve on that this weekend. 1 run Friday? 2 Saturday. If it were not for Andy I would not go on Friday. Loose too much money by not working.

But we do anything for our kids.

Drag racing ia an addiciton for which there is no rehab or cure

[greg fulk]

"IF" this is the way thing are going to be....then they need to do like IHRA come in apart make sure everything checks...screw it togather and run! if your not fast enough for the record..to bad..if ya are then you know what the car is going to run ...all ya have to do is go with it.

[Greg Hill]

Bob I have a suggestion about the National opens, don't go. We even have heads up runs at the combo races in Bowling Green and at Ohio Valley. If you guys don't support them they will be forced to change. Let the track owners know how you feel. If they don't have many cars they will either cancel the race or put pressure on NHRA to change it. If they cancel it's no big deal because it's just a bracket race anyway.

[Racin Mason]

The no heads up deal at the open is BS.
I personally like the one run Friday and two on Saturday deal. You have to understand that in division 7 we will have 120+ s/c and 120+ s/g cars, so there just isn't time to run all of those guys and run us twice on each day. Since there is only one run on Friday, you can really skip Friday and not miss the day of work. You then show up Saturday and still have two qualifying runs to dial the car in. Two qualifying runs is all we got at the Sonoma National event and nobody is really complaining about that.
If you are setting a record (which not many people do in the middle of July anyway) set the record Saturday morning, back it up Saturday afternoon and you are good to go. This is not a bad deal if you look at the entire picture.
Division 7 is a different animal than most other divisions because of the huge amount of .90 cars. Those guys get two runs Friday, one run Saturday morning and then first round Saturday afternoon. I like our schedule better than theirs.

[Oclk Dlux]

Did I just read right? No heads up?

What's the point of having a S/SS car classification and engine specification then?

Sure, in a heads up race against Jim Wahl, I'd most likely lose with my old LeBaron. But it sure would be fun trying. To me, the whole point of S/SS is heads up racing. I love the engineering challenge in making the most with stock parts. Take that away and you may as well cut out the S/SS pages in the rule book and refer us to the bracket racing sections.

Maybe I should look into Comp. Steve Polhill, can you help me?

[Bob Mulry]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

Do we have too many cars or the wrong cars at LODRS events?

I know that I am an old fart but I can still remember NHRA when it was a performance oriented association.

The divisional meets had TOP FUEL, NITRO FUNNY CAR & PRO STOCK but we still got 6 or 7 qualifying or record runs.

I don't want to single our .90 brothers, because they have to eat the same **** sandwich that we do, but I think there has to be a limit on Top Comp, Top Sportsman, Top Mini bike, Top Snowmobile, Top ****, Top golf cart, etc.
that are now run at divisional meets.

I know that life is like a **** sandwich because the more bread you have the less **** you have to eat.

I just hate also having my nose rubbed in it.

Bob

[Dick Butler]

I have been discussing the fact NHRA has overexpanded the number of classes because they only were watching how many cars enter and pay entry at Points meets and Opens. That is their income to pay purses and make profit. They have decided rather than advertise they blame the track operator for no crowd KNOWING a race was being held. No spectators meant "no one cares about Sportsman racing".
TOP/SS and TOP/STK and in Div 1 JR/STK are attempts to turn the show around to use heads up racing for fun for the racers and recreate a "SHOW" which IF advertised could draw spectators again.Spending all the time and money to build a class race car has to have a place to run them.MANY people still want to RACE each other to see who has done the best of tuning etc.
With the TOO MANY class condition of S and SS today, there is a class for everyone to run anything but this creates the problem of no recognition for class racing or "heads up racing" because everyone essentially has a class for themselves. If only 4 cars exist in a class in the whole country or worse ONE how can you expect NHRA to recognise class racing as what people want to do? They dont recognize there are only so many racers to build the class type car.What would make them think everyone really wants heads up racing? Its easier to not discourage the "weak" cars playing the "I wont come because a fast class car might beat me " card.
Last year a petition circulated to STOP the NHRA plan of combining classes. I think you should recognize that if you work to keep the 100s of classes to keep everyone making bye runs the organization really thinks "everyone"WANTS to just bracket race like points meets so whats the difference if one more run between same class cars is dial in too. One entry might be lost.
Reduce the classes to about 1/4 by wider weight breaks, GT and SS in same classes with possible wt break for pre 80 body style, Carb and Injected together. Trucks in regular classes. FWD in regular classes. Mod cars in COMP. OR other methods . Then when every National has 10 cars per class suddenly a show develops which people come to watch on S and SS days TOO.
OR make more heads up races with combined classes. Like TOP/SS and TOP/STK for the S and SS racers who want to do this more often than once a year. The word is "its the most fun had for YEARS"

Help us support Class Heads Up racing. Thanks for Reading Dick Butler TOP/SS and TOP/STK div 3